Topic: Is this a forum where we help folks?

[ChortlingSandcaster]

Doesnt hurt to ask. Just dont ask why the CB750 has an OIL TANK. 

Especially if you OWN a sandcast!!

What if you just OWNED A SANDCAST for about 6 weeks, sh*t just knock that sh*t off already.  I just BOUGHT the durned thing few weeks ago, oldest 4cylinder 4stroke I ever owned, I come here for some help on it.

I got news for you idjits who are insulting me about that durned oil tank --

THIS IS A FORUM FOR ADVOCATES OF THESE OLD BIKES and we all need to be in a HELPFUL MOOD, not INSULTING FOLKS FOR NOT KNOWING EVERYTHING.

I mean F**K dudes if this was my 10th old cb750 maybe insults are worthy BUT YA STILL DONT INSULT FOLKS!  If you do you surely know you got that comin back now!

   This is the oldest 4 cylinder 4 stroke I ever owned.   The closest other 4 cylinder 4 stroke bike I ever owned was a 1975 cb400f.  And yep I did not know anything about 'dry sump' I heard the words but did not know what it meant.

DONT MEAN I'M GONNA LET YOU INSULT ME BECAUSE I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW.
Comes across as real chick#$%* now.

I'm tired of it.  If you dont respect other people, you are smart enough to know that they wont make that extra effort to respect you WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING F*CKING WRONG.

I was totally ignorant of the 'dry sump' motor and you dummies just keep choking me on that same issue and I AM T*RED OF IT.

So knock the f*ck off about that.

Lets be in a helpful way here on the board, THATS WHAT THE BOARD IS FOR, if you start insulting people when they don't know what you know, it means YOU SHOULD REASSESS WHY YOU ARE EVEN HERE.

THIS AINT A PLACE TO INSULT PEOPLE.

THIS IS A PLACE TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE.

If you come in here with a bad attitude of 'Im gonna insult folks who dont know what I know'

THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

I haven't done sandcast before but how can I help?

[scottly]

I apologize. It was a cheap shot.
Scott

[campbmic]

Trust me the majority of the people on the forums are great and will help you for hours (like scottly). Most of the people really enjoy talking about these old bikes and are willing to help you out no matter what the problem or how much of a newb you are. Then there are those who are just Too Tired 

How much did you get your sandcast for anyways? I'm still waiting for the day I go to an estate sell and some old lady wants to sell me a mint condition in the box one for $100 bucks.

[ChortlingSandcaster]

Trust me the majority of the people on the forums are great and will help you for hours (like scottly). Most of the people really enjoy talking about these old bikes and are willing to help you out no matter what the problem or how much of a newb you are. Then there are those who are just Too Tired 

How much did you get your sandcast for anyways? I'm still waiting for the day I go to an estate sell and some old lady wants to sell me a mint condition in the box one for $100 bucks.

Maybe thats my problem as I admitted I got mine for $800.  I dont know.  I am honest about stuff, but theres nothing wrong with that I reckon.  Or I hope.

[Ryan6838]

Maybe we should make something everyone has to read that says hi new guys some people here can be mean for no reason. Just seems to happen a lot lately. Dont let some people get you down to much. Im newer here and try to just ignore it theres alot of good guys here and great knowledge. I only chime in on these ( there's been a lot since i joined ) to let you know there good people here and years of experience.

[ChortlingSandcaster]

I apologize. It was a cheap shot.
Scott

Thanks I appreciate it, I am far from perfect myself.

[754]

I got a few questions for the OP..

 Did you at first come on here saying you bought a sandcast and only needed 800 $ pipes & a few other things?

 Did you on a thread, at length express your opinion as to what someone should pay for a certain bike, along with a few examples of ones you had bought. And not talk about the ones they would not sell to you?

 Not trying to stir anything up, just saying first impressions, can cause certain harsher responses than some newbies would get..

 I should mention that on the sandcast 750, between start of production to end there are over 35 differences, maybe even as much as 50.. . So if you are comparing it to other Japanese classics. there is truly no comparison..

[Frankenkit]

I think the joking was mainly because this is your first 750 and it's a sandcast... that's like having your first car be a 57 chevy, porche or sweet MG.  There are people here who obsess over sandcasts because they have loved 750s for years, and though that in no way diminishes the way you value your sandcast, please understand that you have in your hands the 750 purist's holy grail.  

99% of my posts are smart-aleck attitude, but here I'm being genuine.  I understand where you're coming from, but I think some of these comments need to be taken with a grain of salt (and maybe a few shots of tequila.)

[Gordon]

Not trying to stir anything up, just saying first impressions, can cause certain harsher responses than some newbies would get..

Agreed.

And a lot of times it comes down to mutual misunderstanding.  New members aren't familiar with the good-natured banter that goes on here, and old members sometimes don't take that into account when conversing with a new member.

Also, in reference to the Oil Tank thread that you're talking about, you did come across as acting like you know better than the designers of the motorcycle and that you think an oil tank on the 750 is pointless.  That may not be what you meant, but that's how your post reads.  If you had simply asked "why do they have an oil tank", and left it at that, I'm positive the responses would have been different.  

[Frankenkit]

the correct sandcast parts are going to cost more than your bike did.   then again, at least you could start with a less expensive base... some people pay over $3000 for their sandcasts...

[754]

Let me warn you, if you are tiddling this bike to get ready to sell, you may be in for a rough ride..

 Not from me personally, but I have seen it many times on here.

 Myself I would rather see any bike treated properly as opposed to the wrong way if someone is going to sell it. Plus it generallymeans we on here get first crack at it..

 carry on.. & have fun..

[scrapvalue]

If he was "tiddling" the bike, I don't think he would have told us he only paid $800 for it.
That is reason enough to not like the guy,(just kidding).
Besides, this is not the place to try to get high dollar,( or even fair market value), for a CB750.
Don't mean that disrespectfully, its just that we have all gotten are bikes for good deals, or are dreaming of that great barn find.
This is an invaluable site for information on these old bikes and a great place to just BS.
Although you will be reading a lot of crap from time to time, everyone has something to offer.

[birdy]

Relax, every forum I've been on to date has someone who's a bit abrupt; it's usually an 'email' thing whereby the writer can be agressive - either because they haven't thought through how their words may be construed, or they get brave because they know it's not face to face conversation and know responses will just be written arguements without the fear of becoming physical
I've always had really helpful responses so far....

[Kevin400F]

Sure, we help folks, but typically it works better if you limit your thinly-disguised "f-bombs" to a maximum of two per post.  Extra delay may be experienced if you use bold print when pseudo-cursing.  

Reminds me a bit of "Psycho" in the movie "Stripes".  At the end of Psycho's long rant, Sergeant Hulka camly utters: "Lighten up, Francis".

[ChortlingSandcaster]

I got a few questions for the OP..

 Did you at first come on here saying you bought a sandcast and only needed 800 $ pipes & a few other things?

 Did you on a thread, at length express your opinion as to what someone should pay for a certain bike, along with a few examples of ones you had bought. And not talk about the ones they would not sell to you?

754 what was my motivation on the response when the guy asked 'How much should I pay' ??

MY MOTIVATION:  to answer his question and give my advice on 'what he should' pay.   Now that's what he asked, and you didn't like my answer, sorry about that dude, but my motivation was TO HELP HIM NOT OVERPAY and I gave several recently sold examples on ebay to back that up, didn't I.

And giving me grief because I won't tell you what I bought and didn't buy?
WTF?   Sounds trivial.  Comes across as 'I know you don't get what you want all the time' and 754 I *admitted that* to you in that thread now didn't I.  The only thing that surprised me after I bought the durned bike was -- the guy sold it said it was a 1970 but when I researched it,  it was a '1969 model and Id heard about sandcast.  Then I found out it was a sandcast and created my account on the board here 'chortling sandcaster'

I JUST DIDNT KNOW I WAS BUYING A SANDCAST SORRY YOU FELLERS SEEM MAD that I got some kinda good deal?  And that I tried to help that other feller not pay too much?

I have been around bikes since 1976 but I aint no mechanic so will I ask dumb questions yes.

Probably time to get over this sh**t now and move on.

[333]

I'd like to invite you to The South Side Dive Bar(in Open Forums), where we give people s*!t for grins and giggles.  In there, we take nobody seriously.

[Damfino]

I'd like to invite you to The South Side Dive Bar(in Open Forums), where we give people s*!t for grins and giggles.  In there, we take nobody seriously.

I'll second that invitation. 

[Retro Rocket]

I think that maybe coming on here and giving advice on a bike then admitting that you know #$%* all has gotten you in a bit of trouble. The majority of guys on this forum are great and only to willing to help anyone with these bikes. I think your comments about "Honda knew what it was doing and an altered engine will never be as reliable" didn't help either. There are some amazing guys here producing modern parts for our engines, billet blocks, modern alloy pistons, heavy duty engine chains, improved guides and more and i was going to comment in that thread because i am building a 1000cc engine that i am expecting to be better than original in almost every way, now it is costing a pretty packet but thats my prerogative. Settle down mate and enjoy the wealth of information,this is really the best resource on the planet for these bikes and after a wobbly start you are more than welcome to be part of this eclectic community. I hope nothing here has offended you as that was not my intention.....

Mick

[swellguy]

Probably time to get over this sh**t now and move on.

The only attitude I read in this thread is in your posts.

[ekpent]

As far as learning things about your Sandcast there may be more info and help over here.   http://cb750sandcastonly.com/smf_forum/index.php

[mystic_1]

People help each other out all the time on this board, but rarely the ones who go around cussing people out and calling them names.  Just saying.

mystic_1

[scrapvalue]

Just an observation here, but this is what I see.

A new guy comes along and asks some questions that seem so simple to those who have been around for a while.
Those guys have to make smarta$$ remarks or are just plain rude for no good reason.
The new guy retaliates.
The old guys pile on the new guy, telling him he should "respect" them.
New guy tries to explain what he actually said, or meant to say, because the old guys didn't take the time to read what was actually said or read stuff into it that wasn't meant.
Old guys jump on him some more.
New guy says, screw this place and goes some where else.
Well not all the new guys, some like to stick around and call people out and tell them they aren't any better then anyone else and they were all young,(or at least uneducated) at one time.
Someone took the time to put up with your crap and show you the ropes.

Anyway, grow up and quit the cyber-bullying or I'm telling your mom!
 

[Swoop]

Nothin wrong with being a new guy....or not knowing nothin'....just don't do it with attitude. ...I think that's what people are saying...........IMHO

Steve

[scottly]

Just an observation here, but this is what I see.

A new guy comes along and asks some questions that seem so simple to those who have been around for a while.

Well, not to justify my admitted cheap shot, but you missed a few posts from the new guy on other threads where he told us all how wrong we were, at great length, on many points, and we were all pretty patient with him. Then, when he asked his simple question, well, what can I say. And I DID apologize.