Author Topic: Tis the season people, be careful out there.* (Read 3237 times)

noahspop · « **on:** April 08, 2011, 04:49:28 PM »

(Not Me)

flybox1 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 08, 2011, 06:00:24 PM »

ouch!

GrandRapids750K3 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 08, 2011, 06:05:00 PM »

A good reminder. As much as I hate to see it, it's probably something I should see every spring..

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #3 on:** April 08, 2011, 06:43:22 PM »

That guy needs to learn how to ride, i didn't see the front of that bike dip at all whilst braking which leads me to believe he was trying to either stop only using the rear or was too scared to use the brakes in a corner , that is a recipe for disaster. He really wasn't going that fast.....Take the time to learn how to use your brakes guys, accidents like that should never happen.....

78 k550 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 08, 2011, 07:18:17 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 08, 2011, 06:43:22 PM

That guy needs to learn how to ride, i didn't see the front of that bike dip at all whilst braking which leads me to believe he was trying to either stop only using the rear or was too scared to use the brakes in a corner , that is a recipe for disaster. He really wasn't going that fast.....Take the time to learn how to use your brakes guys, accidents like that should never happen.....

I was thinking the same thing.

Paul

seaweb11 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 08, 2011, 08:19:30 PM »

It did say slow to 30 before the corner, but poo does happen

Grnrngr · « **Reply #6 on:** April 08, 2011, 10:41:31 PM »

Kinda hard to tell but it sounded like he pulled the clutch just as he was at the lead guys tail, I think he just freaked out, instead of downshifting and braking hard, he thought he couldn't do it or didn't know what to do, and so he didn't. No power going into the turn means a straight line to the ditch, following too close? not paying attention? the guys behind him probably slowed down real fast and the people not paying attention behind them did the same thing. It's easy to fixate on the person in front of you and forget someone's behind you...and it's a hard choice when you're cruising along enjoying the beautiful day and all of a sudden notice a bunch of traffic stopped dead in front of you...this ditch, that ditch or slam the pile?
My hurt bones are cryin for those folks, hope everyone's recovering well.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2011, 02:23:56 AM »

Agree with the braking comments, like he just took it into the rock as part of the Sunday ride.

The be careful thread came around and was posted about a year ago after a forum guy wrecked or saw a wreck.

Once I was hearing something that sounded like a revving camaro in a driveway as I walked out the house gate. Kind of strange that it's not a motorsports neighborhood, paid little attention until I heard a crash. That was enough to send me to the nearest phone without seeing anything. I walked out and told the 911 operator the first thing I saw as wal=king out. There is a guy writhing on the sidewalk, but sorry , I still don't know what the F#$% happened. Dad followed me out, saw the guy, shaded him with a blanket, but still hadn't noticed the Kawi cruiser cold- forged into the front of the neighbor's truck.

Oh and there was a couple other stories, but work on the pics for this one first.

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2011, 09:43:07 AM »

Looks like serious inexperience created this mishap. He downshifted before the corner, it seems like he pulled the clutch in instead of hitting the brake like you guys said.

They didn't appear to be going that fast into the turn, I guess he just freaked out when he came up on the front guy's tail.

simon#42 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2011, 09:56:14 AM »

how on earth did he manage to crash , as mick said he needs to learn how to ride . its people like this that keep insurance high and give us all a bad name . there is no excuse these days if you cant ride there are plenty of good track schools that can help you out .

CycleRanger · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2011, 09:59:49 AM »

Quote from: noahspop on April 08, 2011, 04:49:28 PM

*Note the complete sentence in the heading.

Yeah, ok, fine. I'll never suggest anything to improve the forums again!

TwoTired · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2011, 10:35:22 AM »

Quote from: CycleRanger on April 09, 2011, 09:59:49 AM

Quote from: noahspop on April 08, 2011, 04:49:28 PM
*Note the complete sentence in the heading.

Yeah, ok, fine. I'll never suggest anything to improve the forums again!

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
A lie told often enough becomes accepted as truth.

The same goes for bad grammar and the murder of an established and well understood language.

scrapvalue · « **Reply #12 on:** April 09, 2011, 10:59:07 AM »

That crash,(fall over), was "Total Squid-izim"

Training wheels would have saved him.

dave500 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2011, 02:09:27 AM »

i dont get it?,he sort of looked like he was going to pass then sort of just went straight ahead and fell over with not too much speed involved,the others mustave been following him too close to also foul up.

bwaller · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2011, 04:36:35 AM »

As a volunteer fireman in a rural area I can say that in the last five years we see an increased incidence of crazy get-offs. In a lot of cases it's a "returning to my youth" type deal on the first ride out in the country.

I'll keep my mouth shut on a potential cause of this one, but as mentioned it does nothing to help the industry.

fmctm1sw · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2011, 02:41:08 PM »

I hate to armchair quarterback that but I would never make a "he's hurt bad" comment around anyone that wiped out. My wife made a comment about "hoping I didn't sever an artery" once when I accidently stabbed my wrist with my car keys (long story...). I fainted and had to be taken to the hospital by ambulance. Mostly just because she freaked me out. Fortunately, I only ended up with stitches (and ridicule at the hospital).

Pac-Man350 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2011, 05:10:16 PM »

I don't think thats armchair quarterbacking, that is a good lesson. Making comments like that (help me out EMTs) I would think could send someone into shock. I would think they would be better off with keeping them calm and telling them help is on the way.

Kevin D · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2011, 08:37:57 PM »

First nice weekend here in Michigan. Two riders die in two separate rear end accidents on Highland Road. Both accidents sound like rider error.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/27498809/detail.html
http://www.clickondetroit.com/slideshow/news/27506984/detail.html

It's been 5 months since I've been on my CB. I'll be taking it slow and easy.

2011 riding season off to a somber start

74cb750 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 15, 2011, 07:11:19 AM »

What a bummer.

Maybe he hit some oil or something?

flopshot · « **Reply #19 on:** April 15, 2011, 10:01:04 AM »

sometimes i wonder why i'm still alive. nowadays i worry about "the other guy" as opposed to my abilities to ride.

noahspop · « **Reply #20 on:** April 15, 2011, 10:32:48 AM »

D-Fence! D-Fence!

OneWheelDrive · « **Reply #21 on:** April 15, 2011, 02:06:10 PM »

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v433/USCAAAA/?action=view&current=jacket3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/USCAAAA/jacket3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">[/url]

Ehh, dunno why I can't embed the vid... Lucky ass rider though!

noahspop · « **Reply #22 on:** April 18, 2011, 11:48:22 AM »

Even stopped at a light, the sh!t can hit the fan.

Terrifying truck crash in China

wardenerd · « **Reply #23 on:** April 20, 2011, 07:29:24 AM »

to all drivers I can kill myself without your help. Please stop trying so hard to help.

CycleRanger · « **Reply #24 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:33:44 PM »

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/04/dramatic-video-from-dallas-nor.html
"I can't promise that this crash video, taken last month on the Dallas North Tollway, will be the most startling thing that you see today. But it's going to be close." $:-\$

I was rear-ended almost like that 20 years ago. Fortunately I came away better than he did.

y2kc0wb0y · « **Reply #25 on:** April 25, 2011, 02:20:25 PM »

Thank you for the post. Good reminder.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #26 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:00:45 PM »

That guy on the bike was headed for trouble anyway, he had locked his rear wheel before he was hit. I can't believe the amount of guys that don't know how to use their brakes properly......

petercb750 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:32:19 PM »

Yeh, virtually no front brake..........der. And no attempt to go for the gap between the lanes. As an instructor we spend a lot of time showing newbies how to use the brakes, but some really fear the front brake - they get their heads filled with crap from know-alls who say they'll throw themselves over the bars etc etc. One young fella said to me "my dad said to never use the front brake...". FFS.

What's the bet dad is a born again cruiser type.

I'd suggest the first vid is another example of poor braking and inattention. They were going at snails pace.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #28 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:51:31 PM »

It just blows me away, the front brake is the one thats going to save your life. That guy couldn't change lanes with his rear wheel locked, actually, i bet he didn't even glance in his mirror to see if anyone was trying to stop behind him....Poor riding skills.....

Gordon · « **Reply #29 on:** April 25, 2011, 05:21:29 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 25, 2011, 04:51:31 PM

It just blows me away, the front brake is the one thats going to save your life. That guy couldn't change lanes with his rear wheel locked, actually, i bet he didn't even glance in his mirror to see if anyone was trying to stop behind him....Poor riding skills.....

I'm paranoid of that same thing happening to me when I'm on busy highways. When the traffic in front of me stops or slows down quickly, the first thing I do after hitting my brakes is check the mirror to see if the person behind me is paying attention, and I'm ready to dart between the lanes if they don't appear to be slowing.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #30 on:** April 25, 2011, 05:24:29 PM »

Quote from: Gordon on April 25, 2011, 05:21:29 PM

Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 25, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
It just blows me away, the front brake is the one thats going to save your life. That guy couldn't change lanes with his rear wheel locked, actually, i bet he didn't even glance in his mirror to see if anyone was trying to stop behind him....Poor riding skills.....

I'm paranoid of that same thing happening to me when I'm on busy highways. When the traffic in front of me stops or slows down quickly, the first thing I do after hitting my brakes is check the mirror to see if the person behind me is paying attention, and I'm ready to dart between the lanes if they don't appear to be slowing.

Yep, its ingrained in me to look for escape routes after doing everything possible to avoid a situation, i know there will always be times where you just can't control everything but having a plan and knowing what to do WILL save your life.......

petercb750 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 25, 2011, 05:47:15 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 25, 2011, 05:24:29 PM

Quote from: Gordon on April 25, 2011, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 25, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
It just blows me away, the front brake is the one thats going to save your life. That guy couldn't change lanes with his rear wheel locked, actually, i bet he didn't even glance in his mirror to see if anyone was trying to stop behind him....Poor riding skills.....

I'm paranoid of that same thing happening to me when I'm on busy highways. When the traffic in front of me stops or slows down quickly, the first thing I do after hitting my brakes is check the mirror to see if the person behind me is paying attention, and I'm ready to dart between the lanes if they don't appear to be slowing.

Yep, its ingrained in me to look for escape routes after doing everything possible to avoid a situation, i know there will always be times where you just can't control everything but having a plan and knowing what to do WILL save your life.......

That's what we instruct - always have a plan B. And you get that from looking ahead and positioning yourself "just in case".
Sadly, there's a lot of riders out there who have been off bikes for 30 years and now getting back into it, just by being able to walk into a bike shop and say "I'll have that one". Invariably they go for the HD or jap cruiser, all about the image. They really should be made to do a referesher type course. They represent a big percentage of the casualties (the actual figure escapes me). Bike shops could help drive this by recognising the type of buyer and making helpful suggestions about re-training.

dave500 · « **Reply #32 on:** April 26, 2011, 01:57:07 AM »

Quote from: petercb750 on April 25, 2011, 04:32:19 PM

Yeh, virtually no front brake..........der. And no attempt to go for the gap between the lanes. As an instructor we spend a lot of time showing newbies how to use the brakes, but some really fear the front brake - they get their heads filled with crap from know-alls who say they'll throw themselves over the bars etc etc. One young fella said to me "my dad said to never use the front brake...". FFS.
What's the bet dad is a born again cruiser type.

I'd suggest the first vid is another example of poor braking and inattention. They were going at snails pace.

my neighbour has a new vstrom and he got the abs brake option because hes always been scared of locking a front wheel,this bike replaces the gsx750 he had for 15 years and this guy rides all the time,commutes,in the rain etc,in that video you would think the smoke trail might at least grab the following drivers attention,,i think that was the biggest factor in that smash ,the lack of attention paid by the car behind him,fair enough the poor victim might not be the best rider but it still comes down to the dickhead who slammed him.

noahspop · « **Reply #33 on:** April 26, 2011, 09:08:42 AM »

The driver in front of him was tailgating, and the driver behind him was probably texting. Thats why I don't drive in the middle of the road. I always have plan a, b, c, etc. ready at all time. He had plenty of time and room to to move to the side, regardless if there was a car behind him or not.

OneWheelDrive · « **Reply #34 on:** April 26, 2011, 09:49:49 AM »

Yikes, here's another nasty example. Glad the rider was OK.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2011/04/26/pkg.motorcycle.crash.tape.KTV
T&hpt=P1&iref=NS1

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Author Topic: Tis the season people, be careful out there.* (Read 3237 times)

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