Author Topic: brandEn's K4 (Read 174960 times)

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #125 on:** March 03, 2013, 10:38:29 am »

Branden,

Did a little fiche digging and I'm stumped. I couldn't find those seals?? I even tried looking on a GL fiche like I did for the oil pump seals. I am surprised! You have the size of the one, can't we just plug that in as a search and see what happens?

Good idea, I went back and did just that:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metric-Oil-Shaft-Seal-34-x-48-x-07-34x48x7-Double-Lip-/150488805167

Do I see new/NOS long engine mount bolts?!?!

Kickstart · « **Reply #126 on:** March 03, 2013, 07:27:33 pm »

Quote from: brandEn on February 08, 2013, 09:36:16 pm

Cases together! Went together without a hitch except I went a little thick with the Three Bond. Now I just need some expensive stuff to finish the engine.

Really nice work brandEn!

Question for you: The longer APE main bearing studs... were they long enough to engage all the threads in the nuts properly?

I did a dry fit on my build, and noticed the longer studs didn't protrude as far as the other studs when I put the bottom case on. Almost seems like they should be another 5-10mm longer.

A long time ago, back when I worked for in the engineering department of a chemical company, I thought I remember hearing that at least two threads should protrude past the nut as a general rule on properly bolting things up..... or maybe it was they should at least be flush... I don't remember.

I didn't take a picture, but I'm pretty sure the longer studs were flush with the top of the nuts when I did my dry fit.

Definitely interested to know if you experienced the same.

Thanks!
Chris

brandEn · « **Reply #127 on:** March 03, 2013, 07:32:27 pm »

Quote from: Jerry Rxman Griffin on March 03, 2013, 10:38:29 am

Branden,

Did a little fiche digging and I'm stumped. I couldn't find those seals?? I even tried looking on a GL fiche like I did for the oil pump seals. I am surprised! You have the size of the one, can't we just plug that in as a search and see what happens?

Good idea, I went back and did just that:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metric-Oil-Shaft-Seal-34-x-48-x-07-34x48x7-Double-Lip-/150488805167

Do I see new/NOS long engine mount bolts?!?!

The bigger seal I found through a forum search. The smaller seal that I pulled out reads 4.8 x 15 x 4 but I happened to have a new tach seal that is 4.8 x 14.6 x 4 . I believe thats what I used on my F3 and so thats what's going in here.

No those bolts aren't NOS. They are the old ones just hit with the wire wheel and then the buffer.

brandEn · « **Reply #128 on:** March 03, 2013, 07:38:45 pm »

Quote from: Kickstart on March 03, 2013, 07:27:33 pm

Quote from: brandEn on February 08, 2013, 09:36:16 pm
Cases together! Went together without a hitch except I went a little thick with the Three Bond. Now I just need some expensive stuff to finish the engine.

Really nice work brandEn!

Question for you: The longer APE main bearing studs... were they long enough to engage all the threads in the nuts properly?

I did a dry fit on my build, and noticed the longer studs didn't protrude as far as the other studs when I put the bottom case on. Almost seems like they should be another 5-10mm longer.

A long time ago, back when I worked for in the engineering department of a chemical company, I thought I remember hearing that at least two threads should protrude past the nut as a general rule on properly bolting things up..... or maybe it was they should at least be flush... I don't remember.

I didn't take a picture, but I'm pretty sure the longer studs were flush with the top of the nuts when I did my dry fit.

Definitely interested to know if you experienced the same.

Thanks!
Chris

Thanks Chris,

The APE lower studs fit perfect. I have one thread protruding past the nuts. In the aircraft maintenance world as long as at least one thread is past the end of the nut your good to go. The main goal is making sure that the threads of the nut and the threads of the stud are fully engaged and they are. A dab of blue loctite for security and I don't anticipate any problems.

brandEn · « **Reply #129 on:** March 03, 2013, 07:40:43 pm »

Just bought a 18 x 2.15 Excel rim from FFJmoore! Gonna slap it on the front and gonna go with either 18 x 3.0 or 18 x 3.5 in the back. Anybody have tire size suggestions that they know will handle with this setup?

brandEn · « **Reply #130 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:26:41 am »

Dual Disk linky for me
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=53532.0

flybox1 · « **Reply #131 on:** March 05, 2013, 01:49:18 pm »

^ was mostly for hardware and the speedo drive plate mod.

this thread is more for the caliper arm alignment issues...
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=38242.msg493516#msg493516

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #132 on:** March 05, 2013, 02:24:45 pm »

You shouldn't have too much problems finding tires to fit mate... These conti's are a new style tire for older style bikes and have tires fin the sizes we talked about

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/motorcycle/themes/motorcycletires/sport_touring/road_attack2/contiroadattack2_en.html

brandEn · « **Reply #133 on:** March 05, 2013, 05:33:53 pm »

Man those look like great tires.
There might be a last minute change of plans....
I may be buying a set of CB750 F1 forks completely rebuilt with Race Tech suspension components. The only thing is, it has -1 fork tubes. I am not sure -1 tubes combined with an 18" front wheel would be a safe idea. Any thoughts on that? Seems like its changing the rake a lot. I don't want any tank slappers.

Maybe I will just run the WM3 Excel 2.15 x 18 rim on the rear (it is the stock size after all) and get a stock size front rim to match.
Thoughts or input would be great!

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #134 on:** March 05, 2013, 05:48:06 pm »

You are already going to be slightly lower with the 18inch front, i would buy new stock length tubes if it were me or even 1 inch over tubes so i had room to get the suspension right. Using 1 inch under forks is going to lower the front nearly 2 inches with the 18 inch front wheel..... Something to think about..

brandEn · « **Reply #135 on:** March 05, 2013, 05:53:35 pm »

Yea my thoughts exactly. hmmm, might have to pass on the front end. I have some 78K forks I was going to use on this build with progressive springs and a fork brace. Might have to stick with that plan.

FunJimmy · « **Reply #136 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:29:29 pm »

You should be able to find a taller aspect ratio front tire to go with the 18" wheel.
Compare the OEM tire sizes between a Triumph Bonneville & Thruxton for example.
You could also use shorter area shocks if necessary.

brandEn · « **Reply #137 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:39:51 pm »

Yea I thought about making up some of the room with a taller tire. I just bought new Hagon shocks at the stock length so I don't really want to shorten them, not to mention I am 6' tall so going any shorter in no good. Thanks for the input Jim. I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to suspension set up and planning so any input you have is greatly appreciated. Keep the knowledge and input coming!

This is what I am thinking.....

FRONT
(suspension guidance needed)
WM3 Excel wheel 2.15" x 18"
100/90-18 tire

REAR
Stock length Hagon shocks
WM6 Excel wheel 3.5" x 18
130/80-18 tire

Avon Roadrider
http://www.avontyres.com/motorcycle/roadrider

VTEC · « **Reply #138 on:** March 05, 2013, 07:43:07 pm »

i have exactly same size rims exel 2.15x18 and 3.50x18 on rear with roadrunners. Its good looking combo tried front couple different size but did not like it.

brandEn · « **Reply #139 on:** March 05, 2013, 07:48:25 pm »

Hey VTEC!

good info to know!
What size tires? Got any pictures you could post or maybe email me? What fork/suspension you running?

VTEC · « **Reply #140 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:04:31 pm »

I got front end of 76' gl1000 with dual disk front tire 100x90x18 and rear 130x80x18 i can try take some pictures for u but front end is apart u can always stop by and take a look at it... Let me know, I am at NE Tacoma

VTEC · « **Reply #141 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:25:01 pm »

Found some I took earlier.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #142 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:31:45 pm »

Why go to the trouble of putting nice wheels and tires on your bike then lowering it..? Kinda defeats the purpose of having good tires in the first place.. It will handle much better at the correct ride height..

brandEn · « **Reply #143 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:02:05 pm »

Bike looks great man. Thanks for the pics.
The suspension travel does look limited up front though. Have you ridden like that ?

brandEn · « **Reply #144 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:03:21 pm »

Looks like those Conti tires you linked Retro don't come in 100 wide for a 18. Bummer.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #145 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:08:45 pm »

Quote from: brandEn on March 05, 2013, 09:03:21 pm

Looks like those Conti tires you linked Retro don't come in 100 wide for a 18. Bummer.

Oh yes they do...

100/90 ZR 18 M/C 56V TL Half way down the top list on the right of the page....

brandEn · « **Reply #146 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:10:31 pm »

Missed it thanks!

Free Booter · « **Reply #147 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:49:30 pm »

Quote from: brandEn on February 01, 2013, 03:21:30 pm

One more piece to the puzzle got installed today.

The 754 chain oiler plug.
THANKS FRANK! I took some pictures for you.

I thought about installing it with some Hi-Temp RTV on the threads but it was such a tight and perfect fit I don't think its really necessary. I just lubed the o-ring with engine oil.

OK.. Where do I get one of these? Did I miss something!?

VTEC · « **Reply #148 on:** March 05, 2013, 10:02:52 pm »

No,I have not ridden it yet. That was just for pictures, it will hit the header the way its sitting on pictures. Ill be going with a hight close to a stock. I still have make a seat, do the wiring and bunch of little things. its bean going a lot slower then i original planned, hoping to get it finished it before it warms up

brandEn · « **Reply #149 on:** March 06, 2013, 08:05:18 am »

The plug was machined by member 754. I am not sure if he is ready to start producing them, I consider myself lucky to have gotten one of the two he made...

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