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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #225 on: May 18, 2017, 04:46:42 PM »
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #226 on: May 18, 2017, 07:08:34 PM »
I smell another BOTM nomination!
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #227 on: May 20, 2017, 04:39:19 PM »
 Because of work, getting sick, etc., I've managed to put a grand total of about 13 miles on this bike since finishing it.  :-\

 Initial impressions:

- The R6 front end, iKon shocks and Avon tires give an AMAZING ride and really good handling.
- The jetting is really close, but I think I can get it better. I'm trying to schedule some dyno tuning.
- The reproduction style 14mm master cylinder has a somewhat soft feel at the lever, but the brakes are really, really good. I'm talking two-finger good. EBC pads up front, EBC shoes out back. Drilling that hole on the brake arm for better leverage is noticeable, too. Very good brakes all around.
- The pipes aren't as loud as I expected, especially after hearing Flatlander's review. Nice growl, rips alittle at higher RPM.
- It's comfy. The NOS seat and 400F bars give me a nice riding position. Especially with the nice suspension. In the past, when I've seen pics of me on a 500/550, I've always thought "Gee, that bike doesn't feel as small as it looks in that pic". The Honda middleweights really "fit", to me.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #228 on: May 21, 2017, 01:54:54 AM »
Scott,

This is a nicely sorted bike.  I bet that R6 front and brakes provides a hell of an improvement to modern stopping power and much better handling.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #229 on: May 26, 2017, 12:57:02 PM »
 Out and about. Getting closer and closer on the carb tuning. First tank got me 40 MPG, which isn't bad considering all the fiddling I've been doing with the carbs. Picked up a new timing light and double checked the timing. It's dead on at full advance on both coils. Got the mixture screws back out to closer to where they should be. Running pretty good, too!



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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #230 on: May 26, 2017, 02:36:19 PM »
Looking good!
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2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #231 on: May 27, 2017, 02:45:31 AM »
good indeed. sounds like you are very close to having it sorted. are you still planning a dyno run?
i am having a bit of a time-out now. will be in spain and greece while the poor bike is waiting back in amsterdam for jets to arrive from cal.

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #232 on: May 27, 2017, 03:58:13 AM »
 Yes, I figured I should take it easy on her for 500-1,000 miles before thrashing her to redline. It runs good now, with just a few spots where it could be better, but I'm keeping the revs reasonable. I've also noticed that it doesn't like being lugged. I guess maybe the porting has changed some of the low speed characteristics. But a quick tap down to keep it above 3,400-4,000 and it runs great. The mid-range is excellent.
 I didn't do a proper plug chop, but I did pull one plug out of curiosity. Just rode it home like normal and pulled a plug. Still rich (black and dry on the electrode), but some color on the ceramic. Still see a tan/coffee color there. I figure that the jetting is safe for now and I'll continue breaking it in properly.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #233 on: May 27, 2017, 07:08:37 AM »
Scott take a ride without the filter to see what it does. Better still if you have new plugs put them in to see.

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #234 on: May 27, 2017, 07:21:01 AM »
 Installing the new EMGO filter helpe. I picked up a used UNI for, like, $5. I took out the old foam and installed some new UNI foam that I had and lightly oiled it. It runs better on BOTH of those filters than the old stock paper filter.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #235 on: June 01, 2017, 03:06:10 PM »
Any minute now, you'll be asked to "accept" a nomination for BOTM July 2017.   http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,166177.0.html
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #236 on: June 03, 2017, 02:07:06 PM »
 Rode it up to Cyclemania - Charlotte today. Took the back way in and put another 100 miles on her. Ran great. It has a really nice mid-range and pulls well at 4K and above. I took it to 7k for a couple of quick bursts on the way home. I still have just under 300 miles on it so I'm gradually increasing the revs.
 I haven't looked at the plugs yet, but it seems to run well. I got about 37 MPG on the last fill up, which isn't too bad. Could maybe be a little better. Haven't looked at plugs again. Gonna let her cool down first.
 Speaking of cooling down, as soon as I hopped off and removed my helmet and gloves, I hit it with the IR temp gun. I'm getting about 235 on the cylinders, 260 on the head and the exhausts were 385-400 right at the exhaust port and the bend. I've found that bend is always the hottest part on any bike. Just a few inches down the headers and the temps drop to 350-365. I don't think that's bad, seeing as I just rode it an hour home and it's not exactly cool out today.

 Parked next to this nice CB750. Is that any of you guys?

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #237 on: June 03, 2017, 06:13:48 PM »
No but for a second there, the color reminded me of my 550!   ;D

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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #238 on: June 05, 2017, 08:52:29 PM »
Scott,
Those R6 front dual calipers look nice on it,they must be 'the balls' for doing a stoppie  :D
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #239 on: June 16, 2017, 07:44:26 PM »
Hey Scott.... After you got the lag sorted out.... what is your take on the Speedhut tach/speedo combo?

I really like the look and simplicity of those.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #240 on: June 16, 2017, 10:06:32 PM »
I have a clean '03 R6 front stashed away for a rainy day build.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #241 on: June 17, 2017, 03:59:37 AM »
Hey Scott.... After you got the lag sorted out.... what is your take on the Speedhut tach/speedo combo?

I really like the look and simplicity of those.

 It's really nice. The filter Speedhut sent cured the lag. Installation of the gauge is reasonably simple. I have the hot start feature wired up but sometimes​it still takes a few seconds or a hundred yards or so to acquire the signal. The turn signal indicators are hard to see in full sunlight. Overall, big thumbs up. And Speedhut was a pleasure to deal with, everyone involved.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #242 on: June 17, 2017, 09:13:00 AM »
Slip a bikini fairing over to shade the gauges and it would help give you visibility of the lamps...feedback to Speedhut might yield a mod to future models or revision on later models to yield a light sensitive indicator where it is dimmed at night and blazing bright in strong light settings.  Photosensor and some  circuitry could choose alternate or multiple leds to illuminate as long as it was not a liquid crystal display doing the illumination.

Love the clean look, surprised Honda didn't use a scheme like the silver and blue in US market..
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #243 on: June 17, 2017, 10:56:33 AM »
 There are actually settings to change the intensity of the backlighting for both day and night. It's just the tiny green LED turn indicators that are hard to see in bright sunlight.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #244 on: June 17, 2017, 11:43:46 AM »
What about the signals themselves, visible in sunlight? Man that's what I dislike about a lot of the stuff available, I use arm signals all the time also. I was following a friend one time who had changed to aftermarket tail light business. It was dangerous, brake & signal in the same tail light.     

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« Reply #245 on: June 17, 2017, 12:22:10 PM »
 Yes, signals are fine. I can easily see the left side. The master cylinder reservoir partially blocks the right.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #246 on: June 17, 2017, 01:22:30 PM »
Whose build used the blaze pin signals tucked under the front corners of the tank.  Very bright and visible as long as angle  of point of view was obscured by trees, etc.  Wish the stator was a high output with plenty of headroom for accessories and more lights for a improved light footprint to make bike more visible.  Power transitors can be used as long as they aren't greedy on power...  but you have to pay for it one way or another...

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #247 on: June 24, 2017, 07:44:12 AM »
 Swapped out the aftermarket mirrors for genuine Honda. MUCH better as far as vibration, and the actually sit lower and slightly wider, which really cleans up the lines too, IMO.



 Also added a little HRC "bling".



 Just love the way it turned out, if I do say so myself.

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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #248 on: June 24, 2017, 10:23:18 AM »
A fun one to enjoy...just have to scoot over to the Smokies to enjoy the cool mountain air and trees and wildlife, except for the bears...they are not fun to be around while on two wheels...not knowing what they will do.


The Baren Napoleon mirrors are nice lo/no vibration mirrors with coated optics, the stock Honda stuff of the day really had many design features that were built in which makes them the way to go when replacing parts.  Now if we could get them to make all the length cables or mirror designs or other parts like a boutique builder it could be a treat.  A custom shop at your beckon call, guess we would need to be rich too.
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Re: A glutton for punishment... 1973 CB500 resto-mod
« Reply #249 on: June 24, 2017, 10:56:07 AM »
Just love the way it turned out, if I do say so myself.

you may say so!
don't know if you noticed but i'm using the stock mirrors, too and am happy with them. i found some little rubber bushings that reduce vibrations even further, keeping them more clear at high speeds.