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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #75 on: November 27, 2016, 11:09:42 AM »

It'll take me a while to figure out an appropriate look and size.

Thanks, y'all!

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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #76 on: November 27, 2016, 01:42:37 PM »
It'll take me a while to figure out an appropriate look and size.

Could always make them look like tiny boob imprints


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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #77 on: November 27, 2016, 05:36:03 PM »
now glue some glass eyes like franks..inn the Deep bumps
..but then you are back at the problem...it hits in the eyes


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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2016, 09:43:54 AM »
Mesmerizing time lapse of a Kawasaki deconstruction
https://www.facebook.com/Partzilla/videos/1103167609802210/


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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #79 on: December 03, 2016, 10:17:20 PM »
Deconstruction by crash is far more spectacular, except for the rider involved or the bike sponsor in the case of a race bike.
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #80 on: December 20, 2016, 05:26:06 PM »
So again, lacking the guts to try and get the engine turned over as other areas of the bike seem more interesting to me...


I don't know. IDK.
It should be obvious to maybe some of you that I LOVE Home Depot and I seriously walk around there sometimes just to get ideas and the start on some concepts, but this... Flexible conduit? Well, I'm gonna give it a shot. This is actually a nod to some Australians, Salty Speed Co and their delicious rebuild of the same bike.

It is more a stylistic approach than a functional one, for sure. I do have both left/right control wire routed inside the clip-ons but for what it's worth... I'd be surprised to see if my headlight bucket is going to fit against the flex conduit, which I have bent to its max radius - I may need longer reaching brackets to make a decent fit of the headlight assembly.

Also had to fabricate a simple 3-way joint mounting bracket. I think I don't have the right 3-way joint but I think what I have will work. The mounting plate mounts to one of the lower triple clamp bolts and is pretty well hidden.

While I've come this far, I think I'm going to continue working on the front brake and then maybe call the front-end done; before I find some other distractions.


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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #81 on: December 20, 2016, 05:46:18 PM »
To me that looks like a common automotive store electrical wiring loom, not an electrical flexible conduit.  FWIW
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #82 on: December 20, 2016, 06:38:48 PM »
To me that looks like a common automotive store electrical wiring loom, not an electrical flexible conduit.  FWIW

Right, RAF. I was aware of that from the start. I didn't want to totally bite them on that. Besides, to me, their black housing looks like it's kinda just jammed into the ends of those bars. At least mine are somewhat more secure FWIW 🤡

But we shall see. I may have to resort to some of the electrical wiring loom like they used because the flex conduit is maybe too beefy and makes installing the headlight bucket and the speedo a little challenging. But then again, I'm up for the challenge!


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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #83 on: December 20, 2016, 09:28:33 PM »
A few auto stereo shops or McMaster Carr would have a larger selection of options. If you machined a sleeve that would slide into the bar ends and redirect the wires down. It could be machined in two halves to make it a curved part.  It would take a bit of CNC work y,to make a pair.  It would be custom and unique. You could form the part so the conduit could be slipped inside it with a rubber gasket to provide a water resistant seal.  A butile o ring cord could be used to seal the halves when bolted together. With the clamping holes on the bottom for a socket head screw it would be less noticeable.  Make it from aluminum and anodize it or powder coat it and your conduit for a clean finish, but the powder may cause it to be more difficult to form, in that case it would be needed to be formed and held in the needed shape with a heavy wire when powder coated 
Just some thoughts if you wish to go that route or explore other options...
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #84 on: December 21, 2016, 05:21:53 AM »
Try this approach:
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #85 on: December 21, 2016, 07:50:20 AM »
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #86 on: December 21, 2016, 07:52:43 AM »
Thanks for the tips, RAF.

I like that, calj. Looks like a fancy Nintendo joystick of some sort.


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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #87 on: December 21, 2016, 07:57:43 AM »
That's the clutch side. The throttle side is the "joy stick"  ;D
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #88 on: December 21, 2016, 11:39:55 AM »
The throttle side has the "fire" button, and the twist for fun throttle.
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #89 on: December 21, 2016, 12:14:52 PM »
Feeling like such a newb, for the life of me I cannot figure out how I ever got the ramekin-looking rubber cup to fit into the master cylinder. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a circle!
I polished, cleaned and lubed the cylinder but the darn cup keeps flipping. It is cup opening on the spring-side, right? Certainly makes a better fit with cup opening up on he lever side...
any tricks here or keep fidgeting?



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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2016, 12:24:47 PM »
the "cup" goes the same vay as the one on the shaft...they both push fluid forvard
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2016, 11:31:41 PM »
Right, and that is the cup's opened end in toward the spring... well, I guess I was maybe a little too rough with the figment and the cup now has a tear in it :-( I'm gonna step back from this m/c rebuild a bit


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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2017, 04:20:24 PM »
Had to take a long break and now I'm back to blow off some steam (and some sparks).



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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2017, 04:26:58 PM »




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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2017, 06:52:28 PM »
The passenger pegs mounted on the swingarm -- is that stock?
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #95 on: June 14, 2017, 06:53:38 PM »
The passenger pegs mounted on the swingarm -- is that stock?
Good question. That's how the bike came to me so IDK


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« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2017, 06:57:44 PM »
The passenger pegs mounted on the swingarm -- is that stock?
Good question. That's how the bike came to me so IDK


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I just Google imaged it and, yes, that's a stock thing.  Bizarre!  I wonder why you'd want the passenger's legs moving around so much, especially when you could mount up the pegs to those loops aft of the rider's pegs.
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Re: IDK Numero Dos - 1975 Honda CB400F
« Reply #97 on: June 14, 2017, 07:29:27 PM »
Agreed, SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan. Might make for a fun and jumpy ride though, no?

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« Reply #98 on: June 14, 2017, 09:18:09 PM »
The loop is only on the right side and serves as a bracket for the muffler.  Swing arm is only place for rider footpegs and whoever riders a 400f with a passenger anyway

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« Reply #99 on: June 14, 2017, 11:02:40 PM »
The loop is only on the right side and serves as a bracket for the muffler.  Swing arm is only place for rider footpegs and whoever riders a 400f with a passenger anyway

Not the smartest design.  FYI - in markets other than the US, people ride two-up on even smaller displacement bikes.
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2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold