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Re: Build 201
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2018, 04:29:51 am »
Like his new rear hub? You can thank me fo that. It took me nearly 2 years of arm twisting to get him to make those. And now, they fly off his shelf. I should have arranged a royalties deal with him.  >:(

I'm trying now to persuade him to make them for BMW Boxers. He's a doubting Thomas that one...  ::)
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2018, 08:12:53 am »
Cognito and warp 9 turned up in the post today. The quality of Devons parts inspires me to make the rest of the bike worthy. Damn they are soo shiny 😎

Devin sure does develop and produce high quality parts.  Which size Warp 9 wheels did you get?
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2018, 09:56:45 am »
Went with 17 X 3.5 & 17 X 4.25. Allows me to fit a nice sticky 160 on the rear. A little tight on the back but still gives 15mm clearance between chain and tire.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2018, 12:35:20 pm »
Went with 17 X 3.5 & 17 X 4.25. Allows me to fit a nice sticky 160 on the rear. A little tight on the back but still gives 15mm clearance between chain and tire.

I went with a 150/65 18 rear on my project (18" front and rear).  The 17" wheels will give you lots of rubber options.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2018, 09:08:34 pm »
Like his new rear hub? You can thank me fo that. It took me nearly 2 years of arm twisting to get him to make those. And now, they fly off his shelf. I should have arranged a royalties deal with him.  >:(

I'm trying now to persuade him to make them for BMW Boxers. He's a doubting Thomas that one...  ::)

The hub is an absolute thing of beauty. I purchased one of the first ones he did and this latest version is finished so much nicer. I have intentions of anodizing black but seeing them in their raw state it seems a shame to cover them up. is there a coating that you can do that keeps them shiny for a long time?

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2018, 09:12:59 pm »
Went with 17 X 3.5 & 17 X 4.25. Allows me to fit a nice sticky 160 on the rear. A little tight on the back but still gives 15mm clearance between chain and tire.

I went with a 150/65 18 rear on my project (18" front and rear).  The 17" wheels will give you lots of rubber options.

I was in 2 minds on going with the 18" option but the choices of modern rubber took me to 17's again. I have an old cx in the corner that I will strip one day. 18's on that one for sure

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2018, 04:06:51 am »
The hub is an absolute thing of beauty. I purchased one of the first ones he did and this latest version is finished so much nicer. I have intentions of anodizing black but seeing them in their raw state it seems a shame to cover them up. is there a coating that you can do that keeps them shiny for a long time?
You could try having it vapor blasted then shoot it with clear coat. The wet blasting might put just enough tooth on it to create the mechanical adhesion necessary for a quality clear to be sprayed over top.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2018, 02:19:36 am »
Decided to go with satin black anodised for the hubs. Would have loved to keep them raw but would only look good for a week. And now the fun starts. Will post again once I've finished lacing. Let's see how long this takes :-).

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2018, 09:06:03 am »
In the future if you want to keep the finished look you can get them powdercoated with Prismatic Clear Vision.

Which headlight holders are those, the ones from Cognito?

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2018, 09:08:43 am »
You can also clear anodize.
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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2018, 02:30:09 am »
4 hrs. Just about a PB.  8) only had to undo it twice to fix up the pattern. One down back to go.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2018, 02:38:09 am »
In the future if you want to keep the finished look you can get them powdercoated with Prismatic Clear Vision.

Which headlight holders are those, the ones from Cognito?

Thanks for the tip on the clear. Will keep it in mind for the next one. The headlight bracket is LSL. 48mm top and 50mm bottom. I'm using the BPF Suzuki fork and they are tapered where the brackets fit so had to go with the offset.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2018, 10:41:39 am »
Had my exhaust turn up today. That's the last bit I've been waiting on so full steam ahead on the mock up. Starting to come together. Broke the forks down yesterday to get the outers re anodised. Turn around was same day. Now that's quick. Will put the forks back together this weekend. Finished lacing the Back wheel last night. Will get the tires on next week so can get this thing to stand up by itself. That will be a milestone. I'm just in discussions with a vehicle certifier who needs to see the frame welds before I get it powder coated. Can't get it registered unless he's happy. Hope he's in a good mood. It's a bit of a pain as the closest certifier is 150 miles away so a road trip will be coming up.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2018, 12:23:35 am »
Brackets done for the cycle X coils. I really like how versatile these old girls are. Just took the original brackets and turned them upside down and bolts up perfectly to the new coil platform. Just figuring out the electrics. Battery is a bit of a worry still. If I do a cutout in the seat base then it will fit. I need about an inch. There maybe room under the tank but will see once I place motor back in the frame.

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« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2018, 08:21:13 am »
Coming along!  Few questions.  I may have missed it or I'm just missing the obvious, but why did you decide to go with new coils?  And which brand exhaust is that?  Looks like it uses the stock collars? 
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2018, 01:11:11 am »
Coming along!  Few questions.  I may have missed it or I'm just missing the obvious, but why did you decide to go with new coils?  And which brand exhaust is that?  Looks like it uses the stock collars?

Hi Durango
As the motor is getting a large dose of go fast bits Ive replaced all the ignition and coils as an upgrade. I'm using the power arc electronic ignition which I have used before. It's a fantastic bit of gear that once set never needs touching. I have used both dyna and power arc before and find the power arc set up first rate.
The exhaust is from Lossa engineering. The collars are welded on which is a bit of a pain as I'm getting them ceramic coated and the flanges can't be removed without a grinder.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #66 on: March 25, 2018, 01:18:58 am »
Finally decided on making some room under the seat. The hump is only 1 inch and will be hidden by the placement of the number plate and rear tail light. Will weld sides and ends on and will make a nice wee pocket for the battery. Placed the major electrical components in the back end of the bike. The new motogadget requires a bit of height compared to the older unit. Wires go in the top rather than the sides like there older unit. I think I prefer the wires in the side but we will see how it works out.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #67 on: March 29, 2018, 08:09:34 pm »
One of those 2 steps forward and 3 back sorta weeks. Took fork outers, hubs, fork brackets rear set mounts to be anodised. Haven't used this shop before. I was a bit nervous after talking to them but heart over ruled the head. Went to pick them up and they looked nice in the box. Once I was home picked up the fork outers and they were all "sticky" fork triple clamps weren't any good either. Took them back to be redone. Finished lacing and true ini the wheels. Had to cut down a few spokes to make it all neat. I have an old motor that I threw into the frame so I could mock up the exhaust and get the hanger bracket sorted. I like the look of the exhaust. Should sound nice. :-) a couple more brackets to finish off then can break it all back down and get ready for powder.

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« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2018, 04:11:34 pm »
One of the things that peeves me on my bikes is when the battery goes flat and having to pull the seat off to get to the battery so I've put a tender plug onto this one. I'm going to tell everyone that asks what it is that's it to download the telemetry. That should get them scratching their heads.  8)

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #69 on: April 02, 2018, 07:38:18 am »
After doing some maintenance on my bike with a mud guard in the same position as your logo plate, you might want to consider making that a removable piece.  I was glad mine was when removing and replacing the carbs a few times while tuning. 

Looking sweet.

Tail light location being calculated to the mm. Left a bit, a bit more. Hold it. I'm just going to get a beer and look at it for a while. Those things hurt when they hit you in the forehead. Hard to get good help when your creating
You've got exposed frame tubes think of doing something like this to keep the rear lines clean?
https://revivalcycles.com/collections/for-your-ride-bestsellers/products/led-light



I've not the talent to do it, but I wanted to french in these - it ended up more vertical and more overlap than I wanted but it came out OK.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2018, 04:39:42 am »
Because I've cut the backend off and redone the subframe I had to add rigidity to keep the compliance inspector happy. I have a set of cr26 carbies to go on and they slip in and out easily with the plate in place. I agree with the back tubes. Still working on a solution to cover them up. Number plate holder hides a lot but from the sides I can still see them. Will need to get creative I think!!

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« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2018, 04:50:24 am »
Re: drenching in your tail lights...

Get a hole saw the proper diameter. Drill the hole(s) you need. Then get or make a dimple die the needed size. Punch the hole with the dimple die. This creates the recess, you can then fab up a housing from some round tubing and flat plate (so your light will sit in it's own bucket) and drill a hole for the wiring to pass through.

From what I've seen, you have ample talent, but perhaps not the experience to steal other's ideas on making these types of "elements"  ;)
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #72 on: April 06, 2018, 12:25:07 am »
Re: drenching in your tail lights...

Get a hole saw the proper diameter. Drill the hole(s) you need. Then get or make a dimple die the needed size. Punch the hole with the dimple die. This creates the recess, you can then fab up a housing from some round tubing and flat plate (so your light will sit in it's own bucket) and drill a hole for the wiring to pass through.

From what I've seen, you have ample talent, but perhaps not the experience to steal other's ideas on making these types of "elements"  ;)

Yep I thought about frenching and played around with card board tubes of all shapes and sizes but the taillight I chose just wouldn't match the curve of the seat. If I used it it would keep me awake at night!!!

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #73 on: April 06, 2018, 12:29:31 am »
Got the battery recess finished. Turned out good and is well hidden by number plate holder. Started work on the rear set brackets to get the master cylinder upright. Still waiting on my fork tubes to be re anodised. Another week they tell me. Got plenty of bits and pieces to carry on with.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #74 on: April 06, 2018, 12:37:33 am »
Rear sets mock up and no the screw driver isn't a design feature that I will be keeping. Just making up a new threaded shaft as the std bolt is too short by 30mm. Exhaust hanger will come off this point as well. Will give a good sturdy hold to the back of the exhaust.  Just hunting around for some exhaust springs to hold the slip on in place.