Author Topic: 21 inch cafe? (Read 59927 times)

Spikeybike · « **Reply #50 on:** January 05, 2009, 11:57:38 pm »

i like it too , also thinking the swingarm should come out a bit

i like this idea, i just hope you can find all the parts

Soos · « **Reply #51 on:** January 06, 2009, 02:31:25 am »

Quote from: 754 on January 05, 2009, 10:17:50 pm

Some of the best stuff built is out there because someone said they could not do it, or just because someone wanted it and nobody was making it..

Thats why I like being a machinist.
If the parts don't fit my final vision... a little off here, add there, mill and polish..

whala, custom parts.

You can get trampled, follow the herd, or go off in your own direction and be amazed others follow you.

l8r

eldar · « **Reply #52 on:** January 06, 2009, 05:46:37 am »

I actually agree with 754! WHOA!

Bike building is supposed to be fun, some people just have forgotten what fun is.

Soos · « **Reply #53 on:** January 06, 2009, 08:25:48 am »

Quote from: eldar, Master of the K8 Thunder! on January 06, 2009, 05:46:37 am

I actually agree with 754! WHOA! Bike building is supposed to be fun, some people just have forgotten what fun is.

+1 whether stock restoration project, daily rider, hackjob, or custom.
If it ain't fun, why ya doing it?

l8r

eldar · « **Reply #54 on:** January 06, 2009, 09:17:27 am »

EXACTLY!!

crazypj · « **Reply #55 on:** January 06, 2009, 09:19:48 am »

Quote from: Industrial Cafe on January 05, 2009, 11:00:57 pm

all i did was stretch the rim inside the tire and then stretch the rim and tire together, fill the gaps and save. just to get a quick idea.
heres the 21front 21 rear photochop. maybe its a little off but like i said, its just for the idea

Cool, I think it would be easier to get a mountain bike and fit a CB750 engine, then you can have 26" wheels.
Build whatever you want, I don't care how stupid it looks

PJ

MCRider · « **Reply #56 on:** January 06, 2009, 09:27:04 am »

Quote from: crazypj on January 06, 2009, 09:19:48 am

Quote from: Industrial Cafe on January 05, 2009, 11:00:57 pm
all i did was stretch the rim inside the tire and then stretch the rim and tire together, fill the gaps and save. just to get a quick idea.
heres the 21front 21 rear photochop. maybe its a little off but like i said, its just for the idea

Cool, I think it would be easier to get a mountain bike and fit a CB750 engine, then you can have 26" wheels.
Build whatever you want, I don't care how stupid it looks

PJ

Needs some spinners. JK

Industrial Cafe · « **Reply #57 on:** January 06, 2009, 10:03:02 am »

man, my photoshop skills are really getting put to the test here.
yeah the front tire is too low profile, I'll fix er up and stretch the swing.

Industrial Cafe · « **Reply #58 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:31:20 pm »

OK, motha-effas!
Here's the one I just finished. REMEMBER IT'S PHOTOSHOP. not real yet.
The rear shocks aren't lengthened or scaled, just rotated in the picture, thats where it would sit if I mounted the 4inch stretch swingarm, those shocks are set to soft, but they're adjustable, I can stiffen up the rebound and preload if necessary.
Also, I can add a 3/4 inch section of material inside the upper cup to raise the spring length, or add a section of my old progressives up top with a ferrule.
I can also relocate the tail light and tag, and cut a half moon out of the cafe seat.
Maybe I would change the seat out for the short bubble like on the CR750. If I liked it better.

and yes, I know the swingarm and drum is out of scale.

Joel · « **Reply #59 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:44:44 pm »

That's looking good. Are there any cross pieces on that rear section of frame?

Industrial Cafe · « **Reply #60 on:** January 06, 2009, 02:35:12 pm »

cross pieces? I know you know it's not real. you mean if it were real would it have bracing?
maybe, I'd probably do one of these.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #61 on:** January 06, 2009, 02:46:23 pm »

Why though? Just to change the look?

21" can easily be supported by the stock swingarm config. Even if you lengthen it.

Well.... unless you widened the 21 rim by about 3 inches....

Industrial Cafe · « **Reply #62 on:** January 06, 2009, 03:23:15 pm »

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Why though? Just to change the look?

21" can easily be supported by the stock swingarm config. Even if you lengthen it.

Well.... unless you widened the 21 rim by about 3 inches....

I don't understand, why to what? the bracing?
I'd rather not, cause I don't like the way braces look , but if it was necessary, because of twist I would have to.

I don't wanna go wider than a 120/70/21.

The stock front wheel of the 2000-2007 harley softail wideglide part number 43445-05 is a 21x3.0 inch 40 hole rim.
I'd just need to get stainless spokes for the stock 19 inch front wheel and continue the threads down the spoke.
lace up the wheel to the drum and trim off the excess.

There Geeto, I just saved a pile of money on getting "custom" length spokes for the rear wheel.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #63 on:** January 06, 2009, 03:28:27 pm »

Nevermind... I misunderstood.

Geeto67 · « **Reply #64 on:** January 06, 2009, 03:59:57 pm »

at this point you are still just all talk....

and I meant custom spoeks for the rear, but while we are at it did you actually measure the spokes of the HD 19" or the hub or are you just guessing it will work?

Industrial Cafe · « **Reply #65 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:18:05 pm »

All talk and pictures... didn't you see the pictures?

I measured the spokes for the 19inch honda with my eyeball and said to myself, "those are too long to lace up a rear drum to a 21 inch rim."
Then i said, "if I take a threading die to them and run the threads down as far as they need to be, then they'll work."

I'll have to use fat stainless spokes so the body is the size as the threaded shank. that way i don't have to worry about shallow threads. and I like stainless.

Geeto67 · « **Reply #66 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:26:05 pm »

pictures? drawings and crude at that. Can't ride photoshop.

not much for a measuring tape are you...ok. Lets see you do it. you know with REAL pictures.

cafe750 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:35:30 pm »

My question is, what are you going to use for tires on this beast? Unless you're going for the skinny/skinny look, or with dirt knobbies, your options are very slim, never mind it being kinda dangerous with no contact patch on your drive wheel....
Not trying to be a killjoy, just looking at it from a logistical standpoint...

Industrial Cafe · « **Reply #68 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:58:50 pm »

Quote from: Geeto67 on January 06, 2009, 04:26:05 pm

pictures? drawings and crude at that. Can't ride photoshop.

not much for a measuring tape are you...ok. Lets see you do it. you know with REAL pictures.

Crude? That photoshop isn't that bad... I would call it "ok" But crude, no no no sir.
I'm slapping your knuckles with a ruler while wearing a kinky nun's habit. *slap*
cause that's what you want me to do.

I'll let you know when I start, dude.

Quote from: cafe750 on January 06, 2009, 04:35:30 pm

My question is, what are you going to use for tires on this beast? Unless you're going for the skinny/skinny look, or with dirt knobbies, your options are very slim, never mind it being kinda dangerous with no contact patch on your drive wheel....
Not trying to be a killjoy, just looking at it from a logistical standpoint...

Ya can't kill my joy.
110/90/18 is stock rear on the 750 remember?

I'll use 120/70/21 or a 130/70/21 for the rear. With that, I should have the same contact patch i did with my old 110/18 tire.

110/70/21 for the front.
I don't plan on doin' the twisties or drag, just riding to work and havin' fun on the street.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #69 on:** January 06, 2009, 05:19:45 pm »

So....

Just to recap...

You are using 21" HD rims front and rear? Or are you still looking for a front?

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #70 on:** January 06, 2009, 05:37:58 pm »

A "heated debate" on this board and I am not involved ?
Maybe I will sit this one out (but for the record I do dig the big tire look very much !)...

billybobobrain · « **Reply #71 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:20:20 pm »

Quote from: ProTeal55 on January 06, 2009, 05:37:58 pm

A "heated debate" on this board and I am not involved ?
Maybe I will sit this one out (but for the record I do dig the big tire look very much !)...

Heated? You shoulda been lookin on ye old Shamless post boost thread yesterday! Now that was fun.

Industrial Cafe · « **Reply #72 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:34:00 pm »

Quote from: HavocTurbo on January 06, 2009, 05:19:45 pm

So....

Just to recap...

You are using 21" HD rims front and rear? Or are you still looking for a front?

Yeah man, that's the idea so far, but I could change my mind. if I find something I like better or less expensive.

I'll wander around the salvage yards and eyeball some of the 21's, try to find a 21x2.50 if I can, and a 21x2.10 for the front. just to stagger the sizes.

I'm just thinkin' low cost and the widest rim I can get for the back without rubbing the swingarm.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #73 on:** January 06, 2009, 08:21:42 pm »

I would try to find a shop that widens rims.... and get as many to the size you want. I'll take a pair if you do lol.

I'll look around the net for that. That way any style rim that suits you can be set to your desired width.

Spikeybike · « **Reply #74 on:** January 06, 2009, 08:40:37 pm »

ok i need to threadjack for a second , ....Havoc , your new avatar makes me cringe every time i see it, it's awful .
not ha ha ha funny awful,.... just awful

ok back to the debate of how to stuff a 32" mud tire on the back of your moped

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