Topic: Frame mod cb 750

[voxonda]

Site is being updated now, but the existing one is operational. Think maybe your protectionlevel is high on your comp?
Picture says more then............ guestbook is crap at this moment, did run well for a while but now it doesn't work. In the updated site it will work.

Rob

[754]

I should be able to make these at 200.00 US. + shipping, based on 10 sets
 Need a bit more info;

 The threaded element, and the piece with the threads, are they chrome moly or a grade 8 stud?

 so it consists of ;
1 pr threaded bungs (weld into front) mild steel?
4 sets of overlapping joints, 2 of those have the male thread on them.
some of the original tubing, gets reused.
A few straps to reconnect the brace, and fasteners and locknuts for the threaded part.


 Is that the bulk of it? did I miss part?

 I probaly could start as early as next week, but will need some money down.. 25%

 Be at this # after 3pm PST 250-763-7223,, and around noon.

[754]

bumping back up.

[HedNut]

Great news Guys!!! It looks like I'll be able to sell Gordon's Frame Kit at his old Prices!! Woohoo....that's what I was going for.  I'm still waiting on 2-3 other quotes...just to be sure I can't knock it down some more...but expect to see the listing in the for-sale section soon....
CHEERS TO ALL.... it makes me quite happy to be able to bring it back....GORDON STYLE!!!

754... yes those are all the pieces... the Threaded element is treated to 180ksi...so she can take a beating.

[HedNut]

Just for giggles...

[wannabridin]

nut,

that's great news!!  so you're thinking about $100?? 

terry, looks like that old gordons kit in your garage may have some competition, haha!

[Terry in Australia]

nut,

that's great news!!  so you're thinking about $100?? 

terry, looks like that old gordons kit in your garage may have some competition, haha!

I don't know where the $100.00 price tag came from, but if that's right, knowing how much machine time would go into making just one of Gordon's kits, (let alone material cost) unless Nutty is having them made in China, I'll have to say, I'll believe it when I see it!

[andy750]

$100 is wishful thinking ;-) I think it was more in the $150-$180 range...

[HedNut]

As Andy said....wishful thinking @ $100 (that would be awesome). But the lower stated value of the range he mentioned is correct.  I will be posting a PARTS FOR SALE Listing asap!  Cheers

[HedNut]

IT'S DONE!...wrapped up and good to go.  I have posted a new thread in the for sale section! 

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=64333.new#new

I just want to make sure Gordon (Ilbikes) knows how thankful I am for 1) Creating one Bad ASS Wicked Frame Kit  (2) Making it available to everybody....and most of all....Helping me out so much and being such a stand up gentleman!!

Thanks Gordon!

Cheers!

Brendan

[wannabridin]

what about those taht called dibs?  damn, i've been at work all day and couldn't check!  well i'll order one!

and Terry, i misunderstood the price Nut had stated as the original price for Gordon's kit, i thought it was $100 when he was making them, oh well!!  helluva price for this one no doubt!

[Terry in Australia]

Don't worry mate, if you miss out on one of Nutty's first 5, I've still got one of Gordon's "originals" in my garage, not to mention pics of my "cheap-arse" frame kit prototype will be posted this weekend!  

[taggat]

Anyone know if theres anymore laying around or have one available?

[754]

They are around, more than one person made them on here, i got a cool idea for a new easier to install,  lighter one..

[Black 750K8]

They are around, more than one person made them on here, i got a cool idea for a new easier to install,  lighter one..

"Easier to install" in what way? One with no welding would be super cool. There has to be a way some type of a sleeve with a snug fit and drill a hole at each end for some bolts to go through the sleeve and the frame tube to lock them together. Hell some people run them without putting any thing back on with a stock motor. I think if you could come up with a no weld solution it would sell big time. I'll volunteer to be the test dummy test subject. If anyone can do it it would be you 754

[taggat]

Id like one. Its too much for one person to get these in and out without cussing and breaking stuff.

[MCRider]

They are around, more than one person made them on here, i got a cool idea for a new easier to install,  lighter one..

"Easier to install" in what way? One with no welding would be super cool. There has to be a way some type of a sleeve with a snug fit and drill a hole at each end for some bolts to go through the sleeve and the frame tube to lock them together. Hell some people run them without putting any thing back on with a stock motor. I think if you could come up with a no weld solution it would sell big time. I'll volunteer to be the test dummy test subject. If anyone can do it it would be you 754

Both Carpy and CycleX sell such versions of the frame tube kit. My version is a ca. 1980 APE kit which was a tubes and sleeves affair. No welding.

[754]

No welding but firm stiff joints..

[KrautKoffin]

They are around, more than one person made them on here, i got a cool idea for a new easier to install,  lighter one..

Make them, I need one!

[Black 750K8]

They are around, more than one person made them on here, i got a cool idea for a new easier to install,  lighter one..

"Easier to install" in what way? One with no welding would be super cool. There has to be a way some type of a sleeve with a snug fit and drill a hole at each end for some bolts to go through the sleeve and the frame tube to lock them together. Hell some people run them without putting any thing back on with a stock motor. I think if you could come up with a no weld solution it would sell big time. I'll volunteer to be the test dummy test subject. If anyone can do it it would be you 754

Both Carpy and CycleX sell such versions of the frame tube kit. My version is a ca. 1980 APE kit which was a tubes and sleeves affair. No welding.

Thanks MCRider for the heads up I sure did not know about those I have only seen the ones where you have to weld.

[KrautKoffin]

Anyone have experience with Carpys kit?

[MCRider]

They are around, more than one person made them on here, i got a cool idea for a new easier to install,  lighter one..

"Easier to install" in what way? One with no welding would be super cool. There has to be a way some type of a sleeve with a snug fit and drill a hole at each end for some bolts to go through the sleeve and the frame tube to lock them together. Hell some people run them without putting any thing back on with a stock motor. I think if you could come up with a no weld solution it would sell big time. I'll volunteer to be the test dummy test subject. If anyone can do it it would be you 754

Both Carpy and CycleX sell such versions of the frame tube kit. My version is a ca. 1980 APE kit which was a tubes and sleeves affair. No welding.

Thanks MCRider for the heads up I sure did not know about those I have only seen the ones where you have to weld.

The one developed by a forum member, aka the Gordon Kit, though it's not Gordon who developed them, is the weld in style. IT is certainly well thought out and beefy. Robust as the engineers would say.  Probably $300+ incl the labor.

At the other end of the scale is the APE Kit. I bought mine in 1980 or so, when people were hacking out frame tubes by the thousands and many didn't even try to replace them...with anything. IT was simply 2 replacement frame tubes, and 4 sleeves, and 8 hardened bolts, for $29.95. 2013 inflation price prob ably around $100.  I installed mine, with a hacksaw and a drill, roadraced, then toured, often overloaded, 2 up for at least 50,000 miles and at least by the seat of pants, no issues. But, Big Jay at APE said he would not bring them back.

In between lie the Carpy Kit and the CycleX kit. I have no experience with them, but I wouldn't hesitate using either, based oon my experience.  I see CycleX kit requires welding and doesn't have any cross tube bracing (neither did the APE kit)  Carpy's Kit is then more like the APE kit, in that it supplies replacement tubes and sleeves, with the plus of a cross brace, and the negative that you have to drill your own holes. Be careful where you drill or your bolt may foul on a carb/airfilter part.

http://www.cb750cafe.com/products-page/frame-adapter-kit/

[Black 750K8]

Thanks again MCRider.
 Just what I want and under a $100.00 Damn I feel like a kid on Christmas morning.

[MCRider]

Thanks again MCRider.
 Just what I want and under a $100.00 Damn I feel like a kid on Christmas morning.

A problem with the sleeves is that you can't keep any paint on the part the sleeves slide on.  My sleeves are real tight on the tubes and need to be drifted on and off, which scrapes the paint.  So you'll just have to touch up with a brush after each use. No biggie. Its under the tank.

[Terry in Australia]

It's good that Carpy's kit has a cross brace, but the whole assembly is still way weaker than the OEM frame because the side rails aren't tied to the top rail as the standard CB750 frame is.

One of the many good things about the Gordon kit is that it retains all the OEM braces in place. Yes it's more expensive, and yes you have to weld it in, but compared to the other crap out there, it's a case of "you get what you pay for". Cheers, Terry.