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Offline Doctor_D

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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #325 on: December 18, 2011, 07:29:43 AM »
I think the anodized ends on the oil lines look great.

Thanks.  In the end, I wound up tapping both the engine and oil tank spigots with a 3/8" npt tap drill and simply threading in npt to AN fittings.  Took a few different tries at fittings, but it worked.  I'll go into more detail here soon if others want to give it a go.  The setup will also make my life easier when I go to put on the oil cooler, as a sandwich adapter won't fit behind my oil-filter housing with the CR pipes.

I spy a Fan-KEWLED ducati behind it looks lika a cadet model.. neat.

Good eyes.  It is a fan-cooled Duc 100cc 2-stroke.


420 lbs sounds pretty good.

Thanks.  Not sure how accurate I was with the bathroom scale technique, but that's the number I arrived at.  I'll get it on a proper scale when I get the chance.
Take care,
David
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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #326 on: February 04, 2012, 05:32:20 PM »
I went back to revisit the Mikuni RS34's over the last couple of days and am pleased to report that they're working fine.

I ordered new carb boots from Mike Rieck AND soaked them in Thor Oil Wintergreen  Tire Prep (http://www.thoroil.com/tirepreps.html).  Much easier to install.  I also removed the o-ring-like lip from the inside of the boot, which allowed the carbs to be fully seated.  Finally, I found some nice stainless clamps that look better than the stockers, are strong, and fit the groove in the boot perfectly. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036R4UDC/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details



The manual says the fuel screw should be 1/4 to 1/2 turn out, and is completely wrong.  Two and a half turns got me good mixture numbers on the AFR sniffer at the shop.  No, there are no vacuum leaks, in case you're wondering.  After figuring that out, it was just a matter of vacuum synching,  some fine tuning of the accelerator pump, resetting the idle, and one more go at the mixture screws -- and off to the races.

Went out for a shakedown spin, and was very impressed.  The bike is a lot more tractable down low than it was with the CR's.  Plus, you can send the front wheel skyward with a quick whack of the throttle - no bog whatsoever.  I could be wrong, but it seems quieter, sounding more like a modern sport bike. (I can actually hear the valve gear at idle - something that wasn't possible before.)

I want to increase the pilots from 17.5s to 20s this week, and hope to get it on the dyno before we ship it off to "The One" motorcycle show in Portland next weekend.  If I didn't have to detail it before the show, I would have filled up the tank and just kept going.

Take care,
David
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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #327 on: February 04, 2012, 08:22:52 PM »
Thanks for the carb details Doc, bike looks great..... ;)
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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #328 on: February 07, 2012, 08:31:10 PM »
Tige was nice enough to nominate me for BOTM, which he's also up for.  Maybe it's time for a recap of the project.

The goal of this project was two-fold; respect the underlying motorcycle as much as possible, while improving the handling, braking, and acceleration.

It started with this, a forlorn 1975 Supersport that sat in the rain for a few years.



After which was two years of this...



And this...



And this...



And a little of this...



Culminating in this...



And this...



And finally, this...



For the record, it sounds like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kH7jKOSR00
Video courtesy of Tige Eakin, aka Tweakin.

Some of the parts and work include:

ENGINE
JMR "stage 4" ported cylinder head, oversized 5mm-stem Kibblewhite valves, titanium retainers, bronze valve guides
Wiseco 836cc, 10.25:1 big-bore kit
Megacycle 127-75 camshaft
APE lightened and balanced crankshaft
Polished and shot-peened stock rods with F2 rod bolts
APE cro-mo cylinder and case studs
Cycle-X back-cut transmission
Dynoman HD extra plate clutch kit
Dyna 2000 ignition, 3.0ohm coils, Dyna 8mm plug wire, Denso iridium plugs
31mm Keihin CR-Special carburetors (now Mikuni RS34's)
Replica CR750 exhaust

FRAME & SUSPENSION
Gusseted stock frame
Tapered steering head bearings
Steering damper
Bronze swingarm bushings
Works Performance alloy-tracker shocks, extended 1"
Works Performance fork springs
Racetech cartridge emulators
Redline 10wt suspension fluid (175cc's)

BRAKES, WHEELS & TIRES
Bridgestone BT45 tires
SKF sealed wheel bearings
Sun alloy rims, butted, polished stainless spokes
Speigler braided stainless brake lines
Ferodo Platinum brake pads
Drilled and thinned rotors

Special thanks to Jeff Tower, master fabricator and new owner of Twinline Motorcycles in Seattle WA, Mike Rieck, Simon Tappin, Frank (aka 754), and a slew of other people I might have missed.

The "finished" photos are by Todd Blubaugh.  More info here: http://www.toddblubaugh.com/test/index.php
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 06:21:03 PM by Doctor_D »
Take care,
David
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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #329 on: February 07, 2012, 09:17:08 PM »
That is one incredible machine.  Gorgeous, and sounds fierce.  Something to aspire to for sure   :)  Now ride the hell out of it!  Congratulations!  It must feel nice  :) Hopefully I'll see a power band like that someday...
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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #330 on: February 07, 2012, 10:25:39 PM »
Thanks for the kind words.

You've got no idea how much I'd love to spend some quality time on this bike.  Sadly, I'm going to have to be patient a little bit longer.  It's going to a few more shows before I put a bunch of miles on it. In any case, the nice weather doesn't show up  in Seattle until mid-July.  Until then, I'm on my rain-bike, the CX500 (aka gutless wonder).

Hopefully I'll see a power band like that someday...

You know the old saying, "speed's just a question of money. How fast you wanna go?"  ;)

Take care,
David
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #331 on: February 07, 2012, 10:31:22 PM »
Gday Doc, was that dyno run on the CR's or Mikuni's mate..?
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #332 on: February 08, 2012, 01:02:53 AM »
David the bike looks killer! I look forward to riding with you when it finally warms up and dries out.

So Ian sold Twinline?

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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #333 on: February 08, 2012, 06:10:26 AM »
David the bike looks killer! I look forward to riding with you when it finally warms up and dries out.

So Ian sold Twinline?

I heard Isaac is the top dog now. Just a rumor I don't know if it's true.

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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #334 on: February 08, 2012, 06:13:08 AM »
Gday Doc, was that dyno run on the CR's or Mikuni's mate..?

This run was with the CR's last year.  Trying to get a run in with the RS's tonight.  If not tonight, then it'll have to wait until early March.
Take care,
David
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #335 on: February 08, 2012, 06:18:32 AM »
David the bike looks killer! I look forward to riding with you when it finally warms up and dries out.

So Ian sold Twinline?

I heard Isaac is the top dog now. Just a rumor I don't know if it's true.

No, Ians head mechanic and fabricator, Jeff Tower, took over the shop.  Isaac still stops in pretty regularly and does some CNC work for the shop.
Take care,
David
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #336 on: February 08, 2012, 06:51:05 AM »
beautiful build

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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #337 on: February 08, 2012, 08:11:51 AM »
Where has this been hiding? Damn its nice! Jus found some new wallpaper for the pc. Well done

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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #338 on: February 08, 2012, 01:59:17 PM »
Looks great David, love the new photo's.  All is good but you forgot to mention the video credit, lol.  ;)

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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #339 on: February 08, 2012, 02:09:03 PM »
Gday Doc, was that dyno run on the CR's or Mikuni's mate..?

This run was with the CR's last year.  Trying to get a run in with the RS's tonight.  If not tonight, then it'll have to wait until early March.

Thanks mate, very interested in the comparison.... ;)
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #340 on: February 08, 2012, 06:22:15 PM »
Looks great David, love the new photo's.  All is good but you forgot to mention the video credit, lol.  ;)

Edited original post to correct the oversight.
Take care,
David
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #341 on: February 08, 2012, 06:59:14 PM »
SICK BUILD! Video was awesome. Where did you get the CR replica 4-4 exhaust?
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #342 on: February 08, 2012, 07:48:51 PM »
Thanks for the compliment and for stopping in.

Where did you get the CR replica 4-4 exhaust?

I got it from Simon Tappin, aka Lord Moonpie.  Lots of work needed to set them up and install them, including relocating the sidestand (they're for a race bike after all).  More info here: http://www.moonpie.co.uk/html/cr750_resource_page.html
Take care,
David
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #343 on: February 08, 2012, 07:53:56 PM »
Thanks for the compliment and for stopping in.

Where did you get the CR replica 4-4 exhaust?

I got it from Simon Tappin, aka Lord Moonpie.  Lots of work needed to set them up and install them, including relocating the sidestand (they're for a race bike after all).  More info here: http://www.moonpie.co.uk/html/cr750_resource_page.html

Thanks Doc, OH JEEZE those aren't cheap!!!! Almost double my bike....Anyway, once again great build. Bike really screams.
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #344 on: February 08, 2012, 08:02:39 PM »
Thanks Doc, OH JEEZE those aren't cheap!!!!

Tell me about it.  Add to that the time we spent mocking them up, welding them, getting the mounting bracketry set up, then sending them off for ceramic coating and they were a bonafide extravagance.
Take care,
David
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #345 on: February 09, 2012, 06:42:05 AM »
I loves me a good F build, i cant believe i am seeing this for the first time.  Nice bike!  You guys up there in Washington sure know how to do up a supersport right!
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #346 on: February 11, 2012, 09:41:08 AM »
Just read through your entire thread! amazing work! I have a 77 cb750f and want to do something similar! Just wondering about your rear sets set up and if your buddy that made you that seat has any left or would be willing to make one. I am very interested!

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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #347 on: February 11, 2012, 09:48:30 AM »



This is one of the coolest pictures.
Great framing.

Cheers
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Re: 1975 Supersport, performance cafe (done)
« Reply #348 on: February 11, 2012, 04:36:27 PM »
Just wondering about your rear sets set up and if your buddy that made you that seat has any left or would be willing to make one. I am very interested!

Fun Jimmy is making some awesome rearsets for folks. Mine work and look good, but I wouldn't want to put you through the exercise of welding on the CR rearset brackets.  My suggestion is that you PM Jimmy and see what he might be interested in doing.

As for the seat, I think Jeff has one that isn't spoken for.  Email tower@twinlinemotorcycles.com for details.  Not cheap, but hand made in steel and bomb-proof.  The shop now has a local upholsterer.  He does great work and turns projects around quickly.
Take care,
David
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Re: Hot Street 1975 CB750F
« Reply #349 on: February 11, 2012, 04:37:35 PM »

This is one of the coolest pictures.
Great framing.

Cheers
FJ

Coming from you that means a lot.  Thanks.
Take care,
David
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