Topic: Its time to build a 836 Turbo

[Jim F]

Well I just cant seem to leave anything alone long enough to enjoy it so
I might as well change it up .......................A LOT

So here is my next project




As you might guessed I have purchased a ATP turbo kit
I will be posting more pictures as I go with this build but I can tell you that
Mike Rieck and Brian Livingood from Livingood Mortosports here in Lawrenceville are going to be involved..........
as well as Bill Benton and his world renown bat-cave of parts
Sense I am not useing my 31Crs these and the 29 smooth-bores are going to Bills to use on his drag-bike for this season.
Mike will be supplying all the necessary parts and advice  to keep the motor happy and Brian will make sure its tuned properly

The list is as follows for parts
The crank will be stock but it will be balanced and cleaned up
The rods will be Cycle-X super rods
Heavy duty primary chains as well as the cam chain and the rollor and guides
836 pistons
This came with a set of MTC 836 turbo pistons and they have been sent to MTC to get checked out
Mike R has one of my heads and will check it out to see if anything has to be done
Stainless valves and heavy duty springs with Ti Keepers
either a stock cam or a purpose built turbo cam

The Carb is a zenith Bendix which I believe to be the carb that came with the kit from ATP.
It came with the original instructions and a complete rebuild kit and some jets and miscellaneous parts 
(this should be fun to figure out)

bronze guilds and anything else that mike suggests
The RayJay turbo has been sent out to a shop in Californian that Brian Livingood uses to get re-built.
There was some end play run out and even it it didn't have any it would get re-built.

I just finished installing one of Gordon s frame modification kits to allow the removal of the valve cover and top end
with out taking the motor out. I did modify this kit somewhat to give me more strength in the area of where the frame
was cut and I am still looking at this.............more to come>






As soon as I get it torn down  will start with the transmission and get it undercut as well as some tricks that Brian Livingood
wants to do for more reliability. He will also do the crank and help with new bearings for the mains and the rods.
Thanks a bunch brian.
Then its Mikes turn

I will try and post pictures as the build progresses and keep everyone informed
This should be alot of fun to build something very much differant than what most of the cafe crowd has
and I hope all of you will enjoy watching this too with all of your welcome opinions. (Good and Bad)

Time for me to go to work as I need to start to save my pennys

Jim

[Sam Green Racing]

That's real cool little Jimmy, you'll have to eat lots of dinners to keep that thing on Terra Firma.
Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh.

Sam.

[andy750]

Subscribed! This will be good to watch! Good luck!

[I Zombie]

I'm so watching this 1 too.

[bwaller]

Can't think of anyone better to NOT leave it alone Jim!  It seems all the right people are included.

I like to see a project done right from the get-go. 

[754]

The Bendix Zenith was stock on most H-Ds  from around 71-76ish.. so, lots of basic info and parts exist.. probably had some small mods .
 sounds like a fun build...

[Bill/BentON Racing]

754,you took the words off me fingertips! ....you old timer you!! To me bendix and Harley went together also.Jim,batcaves always open for you. ::)31's and 29's Lunch @ Normans? 
Yes this one will be fun to watch,two of the most knowledgable and competent ones out there in Brian and Mike!!
You chose well and good luck...who's going to be the first to put it in the 10's ....cause thats where it's going!!
Yes,I'll volunteer!! Bill

[Jim F]

Bill
Do you have the old style exhaust flanges with the split rings in the bat cave?

Normans on Sunday?

Jim

[cben750f0]

i am sooo watching this

peace

[Greggo]

Jim, this looks like an incredibly fun project!  I just bought a '71 550 with an ATP kit on it, so I will eagerly tag along here 

[MRieck]

Bill
Do you have the old style exhaust flanges with the split rings in the bat cave?

Normans on Sunday?

Jim

If Bill doesn't have them I do Jim.

[Retro Rocket]

Subscribed.....

[Jim F]

Bill
Do you have the old style exhaust flanges with the split rings in the bat cave?

Normans on Sunday?

Jim

If Bill doesn't have them I do Jim.

Thanks mike and I will let you know

[dragracer]

Great project. I'll be watching this one as well- never messed with a turbo so it'll be a learning experience just to see how it progresses. Like everyone else said, great choices on Mike and Brian.

Good luck with the build and let me know if i can help in anyway. The guy who does all my machine work used to run turbo funny bikes back in the day and is a wealth of information that we can tap into.  He even tried to get me to build a turbo Kaw once but i was  hooked on nitrous by then.

Hey Bill, if you don't have a use for either set of carbs, please keep me in mind. Those 29's will work good on that 836 that Jim gave me- hint, hint, hint.

[Sam Green Racing]

Frank, ya need 31s on the 836, believe me.
If Billy chickens out, I'll ride it Jimmy. 

Sam.

[Jim F]

All of you guys can ride it................just have to get in line............

[scottly]

All of you guys can ride it................just have to get in line............

I would get in line to ride that bike, but the end of the line is 2000 miles away from me.

[dragracer]

If try to ride that bike it would likely spell the end of the line for me. Too much power on a short wheel base bike equals instant weather forecast- just ask Bill about the Cup race-lol.

Should be fun to try it though.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

The real story,bar bike or no bar bike,one's a lot easier to ride/launch!!
Sam,you run in the 10's ,you get a big GRIN!!!! Bill
jim,have clamps,Sunday lunch sounds good!
Turbo Jim soon?

[Amxsteve]

You may want to seriously consider switching to an hsr mikuni. I was running an s&s superB on my turbo 1100 katana but switched to the hsr and will never look back. Your gonna love the sound

[BLUE71TURBO]

You may want to seriously consider switching to an hsr mikuni. I was running an s&s superB on my turbo 1100 katana but switched to the hsr and will never look back. Your gonna love the sound

      X 100 !   The Mikuni HSR is the very best way to go.  Way better metering and way better tuning adjustments, fuel and air jets. You should get a 42mm HSR, nothing larger.  Here is a website i found
that clearly shows how much better these MIKUNI HSR'S are compared to other carbs. My next turbo
project is going to use a 48mm HSR.  kAWI 1300 cc's .

 http://www.v-performance.com/products/air_fuel.html

[Ricky_Racer]

Great project, Jim! Definitely subscribed!  RR

[Jim F]

You may want to seriously consider switching to an hsr mikuni. I was running an s&s superB on my turbo 1100 katana but switched to the hsr and will never look back. Your gonna love the sound

      X 100 !   The Mikuni HSR is the very best way to go.  Way better metering and way better tuning adjustments, fuel and air jets. You should get a 42mm HSR, nothing larger.  Here is a website i found
that clearly shows how much better these MIKUNI HSR'S are compared to other carbs. My next turbo
project is going to use a 48mm HSR.  kAWI 1300 cc's .

Thanks Jon
I have been doing some research on the Bendix Zenith carb that was original equipment and it really is starting to
sound like a night mare to tune
besides having little or no luck in finding anyone that can tune one.
I think after all of the imput from you guys adn the Mikuni is the way to go.
thanks again
Jim

 http://www.v-performance.com/products/air_fuel.html

[Jim F]

Is there a specific HRS42 or 45 to get?
or are they all the same?
I guess what I am asking is are there any add ones that I need to get

thanks guys and more pictures to follow over the weekend
should have the top end out tomorrow and the rest of the motor over the weekend.
need to start to order parts from Mike soon
I will be going to Livingood Motor-sports to have the Transmission undercut, all bearings will be replaced
Crank will get balanced and cleaned up

more to follow

Jim

[Amxsteve]

Is there a specific HRS42 or 45 to get?
or are they all the same?
I guess what I am asking is are there any add ones that I need to get

thanks guys and more pictures to follow over the weekend
should have the top end out tomorrow and the rest of the motor over the weekend.
need to start to order parts from Mike soon
I will be going to Livingood Motor-sports to have the Transmission undercut, all bearings will be replaced
Crank will get balanced and cleaned up

more to follow

Jim

give terry a call at mr turbo he has all the parts you will need and he is a hell of a nice guy to talk to