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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #650 on: October 22, 2013, 06:07:33 PM »
Hoping it sounds as good as it looks.  :)
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« Reply #651 on: October 22, 2013, 06:12:15 PM »
Good decision, looks awesome! (Jealous).  This isn't your daily rider right, not like you'll do 3K miles a month and need an oil change.
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« Reply #652 on: October 22, 2013, 06:40:59 PM »
Hoping it sounds as good as it looks.  :)

I am positive its going to sound good I just hope the 3 piece design doesn't fail!

Good decision, looks awesome! (Jealous).  This isn't your daily rider right, not like you'll do 3K miles a month and need an oil change.

Thanks man, a couple of your comments are what helped me make up my mind to buy this pipe. Give yourself a pat on the back. haha! And yea I will probably only do 2 oil changes a year at most.... until after the initial break in though.
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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #653 on: October 22, 2013, 07:17:32 PM »
Ha! I'll give myself a pat on the back when I buy one of his pipes for me!
 (Just bought an expensive set for my Z1).
With a build as nice as yours, it deserved the best.  Looking forward to audio....
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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #654 on: October 22, 2013, 08:31:51 PM »
Hey that pipe looks familiar!  Looks good on your bike, Branden!  I think the bracket is a good idea even if it's a belts and suspenders thing.
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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #655 on: October 22, 2013, 08:41:22 PM »
Hey that pipe looks familiar!  Looks good on your bike, Branden!  I think the bracket is a good idea even if it's a belts and suspenders thing.

Thanks!
I really dig it.
Can you get your pipe on/off by just pulling the springs and using the slip joints?

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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #656 on: October 22, 2013, 11:29:28 PM »
I haven't had to pull it off yet since firing it, but that's what we did when we pulled the motor.
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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #657 on: October 23, 2013, 07:07:26 AM »
How are you you going to avoid getting oil all over your pretty pipe when it's maintenance time?

It really suits the bike though. Great choice.

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« Reply #658 on: October 23, 2013, 07:32:32 AM »
Hey thanks!
I am gonna try removing and installing the pipe one more time with just the slip joints. I am thinking that maybe they weren't aligned properly when I put them on the first time. If that doesn't work then I will get a spin on filter and just use a bunch of tin foil to keep the oil off the pipes.

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« Reply #659 on: October 23, 2013, 02:16:34 PM »
Awesome build, Sir! The zhorst really does finish her off!

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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #660 on: October 23, 2013, 02:19:33 PM »
Hey thanks!
I am gonna try removing and installing the pipe one more time with just the slip joints. I am thinking that maybe they weren't aligned properly when I put them on the first time. If that doesn't work then I will get a spin on filter and just use a bunch of tin foil to keep the oil off the pipes.

I have a spin-on adapter somewhere in my stuff.  I'd be happy to give it to you.

Let me look around before you buy anything.
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« Reply #661 on: October 23, 2013, 02:23:33 PM »
Sweet. Great news, thanks David!

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« Reply #662 on: October 24, 2013, 05:01:09 AM »
Definitely ought to have the pipe ceramic coated on the inside (especially the header section). It will protect the SS and if you ever get oil on them, it will help avoid turning them blue.

I just got my set too, and when I spoke with Chris, he indicated the spring joints are very solid, easy to section the header for oil changes using them, and make maintenance a lot easier.

I have a 2 piece exhaust on another bike using springs and they work great.

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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #663 on: October 24, 2013, 05:24:28 AM »
If you are worried about the pipes leaking or spinning you could always use some copper sealant.  I have used it on a number of bikes and always had great results.


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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #664 on: October 24, 2013, 06:07:17 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions!

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« Reply #665 on: October 28, 2013, 03:46:14 PM »
She fired up first try!
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I have a couple kinks to work out. My tach will need to be replaced. My carbs work great but it doesn't like to idle consistently.


La Flama Blanca - first start after rebuild

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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #666 on: October 28, 2013, 04:00:35 PM »
Congrats!! Sounds smooth, sounds tight and sounds good  :D

I had hoped to do the same thing this week. Ah, those little details just keep popping up.
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« Reply #667 on: October 28, 2013, 04:16:40 PM »
Here is a video after the timing was set, carbs synced, and airbox installed.

I can't get it to idle consistently at a good RPM. After I blip the throttle it will either raise high or drop real low. Not sure what's going on just yet. Anybody have any ideas?

Its not the cables, it returns to the idle stop everytime.
Pretty sure its not a vacuum leak.
My first thoughts are the aftermarket float valves and float level. Will this cause this issue?

My screws are 1 turn out.

idle issues
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 04:21:44 PM by brandEn »

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« Reply #668 on: October 28, 2013, 04:27:40 PM »
Not sure on the idle but the bike definitely sounds great! Love the sound of that pipe and your throttle response is pretty good suggesting quick starts off the line for you!

Idle thoughts -fuel flow? Float heights? Float valves sticking?

Sorry thats all I got for now - great vids!

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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #669 on: October 28, 2013, 04:27:50 PM »
Bike sounds great with that pipes.  Let it warmed up and do carb sync, is idle screw working properly? While carb sync, lower carbs slides a little so your idle screw work properly
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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #670 on: October 28, 2013, 04:31:41 PM »
That sounds great Branden... ;)
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« Reply #671 on: October 28, 2013, 04:32:49 PM »
Thanks everyone. She revs GREAT, and responds well.

The idle stop works as advertised.
Sync was performed when engine was warm.
I tried lowering the slides and re syncing.
If I adjust the idle stop even a smidge it has a big effect on idle speed.

I adjusted my floats to 26mm before installing them. One thing I  noticed is that the float valve springs would not compress under the weight of the float when it was resting on the tang. Not sure if that would cause problems or not.

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Re: La Flama Blanca aka The K4 - painting the tank... AGAIN.
« Reply #672 on: October 28, 2013, 06:14:35 PM »
Sounds really great especially after the warm up.

Nice tidy and spacious garage. Plenty of space to work on multiple projects.
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« Reply #673 on: October 28, 2013, 06:30:03 PM »
Thanks Don. I am a bit OCD and a clean garage and work space is a must.

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« Reply #674 on: October 28, 2013, 06:35:24 PM »
that pipe sounds absolutely delicious. just a little 2 cents. when I bought a carb rebuild kit I checked those float valve springs were stiffer than the oem ones. I bought new oem float valves and the springs were soft like the originals. maybe its minute but sometimes its the smallest things. those springs should be pretty soft to allow the float to properly stop. hope you find out the fix soon because it looks and sounds killer!