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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2014, 10:39:17 AM »
Can't you just notch the bearing spacer in 2 spots...180 degrees apart....then you can remove bearing EasyPeasy.. When fitting.. ..

 I thot everyone does that.. :o
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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2014, 07:40:52 PM »
Can't you just notch the bearing spacer in 2 spots...180 degrees apart....then you can remove bearing EasyPeasy.. When fitting.. ..

 I thot everyone does that.. :o

I actually don't know what you mean there, but the bearing is on after I measured the previous stack so I should be good to go.


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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2014, 07:49:02 PM »
small update, here is the frame finished



here is the tank in all of it's current glory. this is prepping for POR-15 tank coating. it has served me well on Yolanda, as long as its BONE dry prior to using the coating. went over well



now the tank has aircraft remover on the outside to help strip off the paint. I will be ordering paint for the tins soon!

visited Bill today and got him my 450 pistons, cam chain, and gaskets. he will be poking around at the engine, and I will have to make it back up soon. today we spent time tearing my K1 engine down to nothing ;) gotta go update that thread too.

I also successfully got the fork seals out. that took a lot of force. got the circlips out after some fuss, and then took the top nuts off and springs out and used the tube as a slide hammer to pop the seals out. sounds easy...it was not. much easier on my 750 that I remember, but now the forks are apart. funny thing too....the fork assembly is exactly the same part numbers as my 71' 750. I think the whole front end except triples and fork ears are the same actually. makes it easier.

I also got the brake caliper finished. painted, cleaned, fresh seal, pads. it's ready to go as soon as I drop a speed bleeder in there.

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2014, 08:40:44 PM »
tank hanging and curing after POR-15 application



forks apart



new shocks arrived.



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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2014, 08:45:38 PM »
are those Honda OE shocks or aftermarket ? They look Very sparkly  ;D
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« Reply #105 on: March 09, 2014, 08:54:51 PM »
are those Honda OE shocks or aftermarket ? They look Very sparkly  ;D

aftermarket, I could not find any NOS ones that I could afford ;) I have been riding aftermarket shocks like these on my 750 for months without problem. they are shiny yes, I will be sending off a lot of parts for chroming too. once you start......you can't leave anything "old" or it sticks out like a sore thumb

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #106 on: March 09, 2014, 08:59:51 PM »
I'm very interested to find how you like the POR 15 tank sealer......... I've been considering it for mine


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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #107 on: March 09, 2014, 09:04:31 PM »
I'm very interested to find how you like the POR 15 tank sealer......... I've been considering it for mine

I used it in my 750K1 build a year ago. it has held up just fine since april of 2013 when I started using the tank. 6000 miles through that tank without issue. if your tank looks good already don't need it, but both tanks were terrible and really needed something. I used a hairdryer for 5 hours straight into the top hole to get it bone dry. I cannot emphasize it being dry enough. the POR15 will harden in water, I found that out with the leftover, but the problem is it won't adhere to the tank if there is any moisture present, and it will float off the side, possibly clogging your petcock/carbs. then the bald area in your tank can cause the surrounding areas to peel off etc.

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #108 on: March 09, 2014, 10:29:53 PM »
If you do this to the spacers, you can pry up the bearing, and change spacer, if you chose the wrong thickness.
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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #109 on: March 10, 2014, 04:37:45 AM »
Hey Chef,

I'm happy to see you are steadily moving forward.  It will be well worth the effort! 

That is a fantastic idea to wrap some of the old parts as gifts........keep up the good work!

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #110 on: March 10, 2014, 06:17:55 AM »
If you do this to the spacers, you can pry up the bearing, and change spacer, if you chose the wrong thickness.

I like those notches 754.
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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #111 on: March 10, 2014, 09:07:41 AM »
I've been wondering where this thread was! lol I've been missing out.

I love the meaning behind this project.  :)

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #112 on: March 10, 2014, 02:59:51 PM »
Me too.
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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #113 on: March 10, 2014, 06:19:04 PM »
Don't worry I've been hard at work, literally. Logging 60 hour work weeks to buy parts for this thing, and of course doing little things here and there. Currently have the outside of the tank 90% stripped. Thankful for angle grinder with wire wheel. My hands are numb but the tank is looking good. Side covers, fork ears and headlight bucket are primed. Just need to buy my primer, paint and clearcoat

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #115 on: March 12, 2014, 02:52:49 PM »
Chef....Paint remover, a little messy but oh so quick! ;D
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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #116 on: March 12, 2014, 04:32:45 PM »
Chef....Paint remover, a little messy but oh so quick! ;D
no worries Bill, its already done! got bondo in the right spots. ordering paint soon

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2014, 02:09:06 PM »
chef,
  What types of paint have you used on the frame & parts(you may have said so already in past posts..)and what type will you use on the tank,etc. including primers ?
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« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2014, 08:02:32 PM »
chef,
  What types of paint have you used on the frame & parts(you may have said so already in past posts..)and what type will you use on the tank,etc. including primers ?

I've used eastwood's rust encapsulator for the primer and extreme chassis black gloss for the frame parts. I think next time I want to try the POR-15 frame paint though. the eastwood isn't as tough and I think it should be.

I am using spraymax 2k paint for the bodywork. 2k epoxy primer, 2k single stage color (tuskey green, my version of honda candy blue-green) and then spraymax 2k glamour gloss on top. its hard as can be, and fuel resistant too. it's fairly pricey averaging $23 a can, but it's worth it. I use www.66autocolor.com I have had wonderful customer service from them and will continue to use them. you just give them a paint code for your color, or you can send in a sample and get them to match it...that's how I got my "tuskey green" color.

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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2014, 09:56:23 PM »
I'm saving that info for when it gets warmer out and I do this in my unheated garage.Have you ever used spraymak 2K for black parts frame paint ?
                   Thanks cheftuskey121
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« Reply #120 on: March 16, 2014, 12:07:43 PM »
A good picture! ;D

An ugly one! ::)

Working on it Chef! ;D 8)
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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #121 on: March 16, 2014, 02:00:25 PM »
I'm saving that info for when it gets warmer out and I do this in my unheated garage.Have you ever used spraymak 2K for black parts frame paint ?
                   Thanks cheftuskey121

I have not used it yet but I have 4 cans of black 2k waiting for my 78F when I strip it down ;)

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« Reply #122 on: March 16, 2014, 02:01:19 PM »
A good picture! ;D

An ugly one! ::)

Working on it Chef! ;D 8)

what's going on there Bill? hey at least there is a clutch. on my 450 engine here there isn't even one of those :p

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« Reply #123 on: March 16, 2014, 06:30:29 PM »
Linkage working, drum not rotating,its mad at the Marshall amp!! ::) ;D Gotta pull clutch and see! ;D 8)
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Re: Project: Over the hill -1971 cb450 making progress
« Reply #124 on: March 16, 2014, 07:08:38 PM »
Keep me posted bill if any more parts are needed. I should be coming up soon!