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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #775 on: August 04, 2015, 05:52:42 am »
Slight jack here, but what makes the CR's such a holy grail? At first glance the look to be a very similar design as the PD carbs that are a pain in the but to rejet and make needle adjustments.
We have a saying here, Paolo, "If you have to ask then you won't understand..."  ;)

They're designed specifically for performance applications. Even labeled with "Race Use Only" on their sides to comply with certain EPA regulations. But they are set up for high flow, tight tolerances, and infinite adjustability. Ok, may be harder to change than some carbs, but they can be nearly micro level adjusted to bring the best out of your carburetion. And they look so damn pretty!
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #776 on: August 04, 2015, 05:58:23 am »
Haha, were all on the same team here god knows i want a set on my next project...i dont need a why. I just need to understand how theyre better damn theyre purdy with those pods on

But its gotta be v-stacks or nothin!


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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #778 on: August 04, 2015, 06:45:24 am »

And they look so damn pretty!

True that! Am I'm actually really happy that the CR in my set isn't red. No flashy business here in this build, trying to fly under the radar.

I'll post a picture when I do a thorough cleaning. They be lookin' nice.

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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #779 on: August 04, 2015, 09:13:55 am »
Paolo,

FYI - a word of caution on velocity stacks.  You don't want to ride in the rain with them or leave them uncovered when the bike is not in use.  Otherwise, they provide a direct route into the carburetors and intake valves to moisture and or insects.  Yes, they do look cool.  I started with the plastic stacks that come with the CRs, swapped them for Steel Dragon stacks, and then went to pods.  I think that tuned velocity stacks will give you the best top end performance, but there is the exposure risk.  It's a little bit of a pain to cover your stacks every time you bed down the bike.
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #780 on: August 04, 2015, 10:40:34 am »

Paolo,

FYI - a word of caution on velocity stacks.  You don't want to ride in the rain with them or leave them uncovered when the bike is not in use.  Otherwise, they provide a direct route into the carburetors and intake valves to moisture and or insects.  Yes, they do look cool.  I started with the plastic stacks that come with the CRs, swapped them for Steel Dragon stacks, and then went to pods.  I think that tuned velocity stacks will give you the best top end performance, but there is the exposure risk.  It's a little bit of a pain to cover your stacks every time you bed down the bike.

I have useless steel dragon stacks with screens on my 550. With the 650 build I'm going to be doing pods...most likely K&Ns. Don't want little critters making their way into my ported head because it'll be such a nice place to be!

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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #781 on: August 04, 2015, 11:18:15 am »
Yes, that would be a fuel and fiery end, but unnecessary solid matter that could muck things up along the way.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #782 on: August 05, 2015, 07:46:55 am »
Subbed! Just sold my 1974 CB750 to start working on my 1978 CB550. This thread is a great resource, thanks.
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #783 on: August 05, 2015, 09:27:29 am »

Subbed! Just sold my 1974 CB750 to start working on my 1978 CB550. This thread is a great resource, thanks.

I do it for the people, haha.

I update the table of contents fairly regularly so it's easier to search for things ;). Hate sifting through peoples' build threads trying to find a section!

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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #784 on: August 05, 2015, 05:49:57 pm »
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #786 on: August 05, 2015, 06:55:45 pm »
I don't think he has a large following,  no one has pulled a Brimmer on him yet to be rid of him. So, he's the site's token troll.
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« Reply #787 on: August 05, 2015, 07:11:21 pm »

I don't think he has a large following,  no one has pulled a Brimmer on him yet to be rid of him. So, he's the site's token troll.

HAHA, haven't heard of a Brimmer in a while. I never participated, but reading was fun.

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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #788 on: August 05, 2015, 08:13:24 pm »
God's poop Dough Boy!! Dave you better get crackin' on a table of contents for that one post alone! Good luck with that.

And what's a brimmer? The only thing I've heard of is with regard to smoking a bowl. Like...packing it to the brim. Only heard about this though so cannot confirm.
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #789 on: August 05, 2015, 08:26:07 pm »
Search Brimmer on this site and you will find a thread about a thieving buyer of parts who was a class A drip that reneged on a purchase from a fellow SOHC4 member and was taken to task for it outing his escapades and revealing his unscrupulous behavior to his family and his wife. That he thought himself a player and was publicly shown his misdeeds to his wife's family and his lack of ethics and his marital dalances that were behind his wife's back.
It was the power of many here unleash to bring about justice and to shame him.
It was a brutal display of how quickly dirt can be dredged up and your behavior thought to be private certainly is not.
It is quite funny entertainment.
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #790 on: August 05, 2015, 08:31:10 pm »
Damn. A SOHC lynching.
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« Reply #791 on: August 05, 2015, 08:52:24 pm »
Joisus, with the ability to spout that much irrelevant garble, he should probably consider a career in politics.
Might need to enforce a word count limit, that was 4245. :o

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« Reply #792 on: August 05, 2015, 08:54:03 pm »
Soylent Green attacks again!!
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #793 on: August 05, 2015, 09:01:53 pm »
There is not way that he wrote all that drivel. That's a lot of time.
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #795 on: August 05, 2015, 09:16:05 pm »
Damn. A SOHC lynching.

Nah man, far more MEDIEVAL than a mere lynching.  This is like drawing and quartering. Attach four horses to their limbs with strong ropes and then they are slowly tensioned and pulled until they are pulled apart in four directions. Much more painful and gruesome.

Look up some of the methods used in the crusades, truely gruesome stuff.

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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #796 on: August 06, 2015, 04:41:26 am »
Raf - for the record, drawing and quartering involved disembowling the victim first whilst under tension. Then, they were pulled apart at the seams, so to speak. Ask me how I know...  ;)
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« Reply #797 on: August 06, 2015, 06:54:22 am »
Don't get on Cal's bad side! Also, if you're on his good side, avoid his BBQ's.

Got the TEC points in. They even feel more solid than the Daiichi ones. Hope with shimming the plate and these points I can get this thing perfectly timed with ease.


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« Reply #798 on: August 06, 2015, 07:40:55 am »
With TEC, shims should not be needed.
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Re: Patina Hyena - Dave's '78 CB550K Cafe Build Thread
« Reply #799 on: August 06, 2015, 09:56:52 am »
Raf - for the record, drawing and quartering involved disembowling the victim first whilst under tension. Then, they were pulled apart at the seams, so to speak. Ask me how I know...  ;)

You watched Mel Gibson undergoing that torture before crying out "Freedom"?
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