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Offline Rexall

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CB750 Intakes
« on: August 13, 2015, 03:26:13 PM »
Hi all, just found myself a cb750 project and in need of a set of carbs. I keep seeing some pictures of carbs on ebay that have a square slanted side and cant figure out what exactly that matches up with. It seems to be on the cylinder side and on the other there is the little tubes for the accelerator pumps. Can somone please  enlighten me on these carbs in particular?

Also, as per:
http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_specs/carb_specs.html

Which series of carbs for the Super Sport models would be the ones to get? I would think the 78's but on that chart there is some info missing for that particular year. I say the 78's because I think it was 77 the model was de-tuned a little? Is it worth it to get the F series carbs or can I just jet a different series with the same outcome?

Im also not dependent on using the CB carbs if there was a common swap to a better set people may use.
Thanks for taking the time here!

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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 03:53:31 PM »
Carbs with accelerator pumps are 77-78 PD series, if that's what you're asking about.

The best carbs to put on your bike would be the appropriate model/casting number from the chart (exceptions apply).  So... what year is your bike and is it a k/f?

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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2015, 02:04:30 PM »
So no particular year of carbs are the hot choice to find? I would think at the very least the SS carbs with the accelerator pump would be better than a K series carb without it, otherwise, why would Honda have moved toward an accelerator pump? I can get throttle bodies and injectors cheaper than a rack of carbs atm and just build a microsquirt but meh, if I had a choice of any year 69-78 carbs I figure why not get the better running set that were actually made for the CB750.
I can understand somone saying just get the ones that came on the bike out of simplicity or maybe because they dont know the answer. Ill go with the later and look for more definitive answers, Thanks.


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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 02:06:57 PM »
I can understand somone saying just get the ones that came on the bike out of simplicity or maybe because they dont know the answer. Ill go with the later and look for more definitive answers, Thanks.

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone better versed in CB750 carbs than harisuluv...   ???  ???  ???

More information is needed. You're not asking the right question.  ;)
« Last Edit: August 14, 2015, 02:08:57 PM by madmtnmotors »
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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2015, 02:23:09 PM »
Hi all, just found myself a cb750 project and in need of a set of carbs. I keep seeing some pictures of carbs on ebay that have a square slanted side and cant figure out what exactly that matches up with. It seems to be on the cylinder side and on the other there is the little tubes for the accelerator pumps. Can somone please  enlighten me on these carbs in particular?

Also, as per:
http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_specs/carb_specs.html

Which series of carbs for the Super Sport models would be the ones to get? I would think the 78's but on that chart there is some info missing for that particular year. I say the 78's because I think it was 77 the model was de-tuned a little? Is it worth it to get the F series carbs or can I just jet a different series with the same outcome?

Im also not dependent on using the CB carbs if there was a common swap to a better set people may use.
Thanks for taking the time here!

I have a K8 and the carbs are fine. Put in to 120 jets so I have no midrange lag. With the stock aibox and exhaust, no plug fouling problem.  Also the accel pump takes away the hesitation when you crack them open. If you clean them properly and do the proper set up they would be the carbs of choice.
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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2015, 02:35:57 PM »
Well you're going to define "best."  Best possible performance?  Best for ease of setup?  Best for bang for your buck?

Both styles have their advantages and disadvantages.  It's not just as simple as one is better.  I still don't even know what year/model bike you have (k or f).  But I will assume by the way you answered you have a pre 77 K bike and want to use PD carbs on it.

To do that, you will need:

1.  New carb manifolds, they are different from the K version, oh, and some of them are discontinued (each one of four has a different part number).  There are aftermarket ones out there, but there are also reports of them melting from normal use due to substandard materials.  Earlier boots however, are readily available, OEM and for cheap compared to the discontinued PD variety.

2.  PD carbs don't have a choke lever, they are operated by a cable.  So you will need a new cable, bracket, and then mount it to your top triple tree.

3.  You will need to tune your PD carbs to run on your earlier engine.  They run leaner, have totally different jetting, and the 78 models don't have adjustable needles.  Definitely compatible with an earlier engine, but expect to do at least some light tuning and having the carbs off and on more than once.

4.  What kind of gas tank do you have?  If it's an earlier K tank, with two outlets, you will need to sort that out cause the PD carbs only have one inlet.  Petcocks between tanks is sometimes incompatible, one being an oring seal, and the other a totally different screw on.  You will have to modify somehow or get a new tank and petcock.  If you do modify, the connections might be on opposite sides, but that can be solved with longer fuel line.

Since you can get throttle bodies and injectors cheaper than a rack of carbs, and want the best (fuel injection is definitely better than carbureted fuel delivery).  I think you have answered your own question. 
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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 02:52:46 PM »
Thanks Bobby. I have a 75 K but its probably going with a larger bore and better cam when Im done. Is there a reason though that on the 78 specs for PD42A's there is no JN or Airscrew listed? I dont know if they went to a "set by factory" standard on the carbs like the rack on an 81 550 Seca Im working on for a guy is. Its kinda a moot point if you know how to adjust carbs in the first place I guess.


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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 03:00:17 PM »
Well that harisuluv are some of the finer details that will help me out a ton, and I appreciate that.

There is a picture of the project here attached, doesnt look like much but it cost a grand total of 35$ plus a new title for 15$. Slightly more work than the 75 CB400F I just finished and currently is my daily driver to work. :)

1975 CB750K, 38k on the speedo and the orig pistons cleaned up look about that. Two of the pistons had slight valve impressions in them which I believe is why it sat and became less and less parts over the years.
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Re: CB750 Intakes
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 03:11:28 PM »
Your welcome, Rexall.