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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1325 on: June 25, 2018, 10:43:28 AM »
Nice words, thanks George. It's a family affair, same as most of the VRRA folk are like family, I enjoy the motorcycle race community.

The forks are bent but repairable. Consumable bits, clip-ons, rear sets and bent brackets. Not sure yet about wheels or axles or the frame.

It has to come apart to know and yes Simon the focus is elsewhere for the next while!

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« Reply #1326 on: June 25, 2018, 12:44:19 PM »
He has a lot to learn about racing. Maybe he'll get there too some day. You know Simon that (often) your closest competitors are the guys you can trust the most "in tight"... some you give a wide berth.

I had one guy tell me Friday that very GS engine was nothing short of spectacular. Ti everywhere.
Yeah well not so spectacular afterall.
Very surprised roller bearing GS would throw a rod. "Spectacular" explosion I'd say. Looking at Tyler's bike makes me ill.
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« Reply #1327 on: June 25, 2018, 03:45:26 PM »
I was furious Mike and in hindsight may be wrong about a thrown rod. At a glance I could see it was behind the crank, left side. Tim V. was volunteering at Pit-In so he may know better. I'll ask him.

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« Reply #1328 on: June 26, 2018, 02:14:26 AM »
so much for oil trays then , isnt this what they are supposed to stop ? 
the trouble with four strokes is they are slow , heavy and full of oil !

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« Reply #1329 on: June 26, 2018, 04:13:30 AM »
Hah heavy & slow, check!

Yes the belly pan issue... A catastrophic disaster is hard to contain, but most try to be minimalist with a pan and that can defeat the purpose. Nothing political here guys, race associations figure anything is better than nothing.

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« Reply #1330 on: June 26, 2018, 04:40:06 AM »
Yes the belly pan issue... A catastrophic disaster is hard to contain, but most try to be minimalist with a pan and that can defeat the purpose. Nothing political here guys, race associations figure anything is better than nothing.
...and the belly pan doesn't contain oil from a bike laying on its side, or sliding across a track for that matter...
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« Reply #1331 on: June 26, 2018, 06:54:26 AM »
True, they don't do the job in every circumstance Cal, but they do often enough. Once I had a pressure leak in my oil cooler and it caught everything. I work at the oil check for bikes coming off track post race and believe me any oil in a pan is better than on the racing surface.

Every time the track is oiled, cleanup takes time away from racing and usually it's exactly on the racing line. Which is not comforting to riders running over cement dust.

Regardless, I'm not preaching about oil containment, but I do support the idea.

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« Reply #1332 on: June 26, 2018, 07:43:09 AM »
Yeah, no don’t they are far more beneficial than not in most cases. I was merely making the point once a bike goes down with a catastrophic failure, containment becomes nearly impossible.
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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1333 on: June 26, 2018, 03:56:24 PM »
hei brent, that sounds like could end in tears, so good to hear tyler is ok. so you did managed to put it all together in time and well at that. Sorry that you'll have to spend more time in the garage now...

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« Reply #1334 on: June 26, 2018, 07:24:55 PM »
Well TG, I was singing the blues but that won't fix the bike again. I ran some regular pump gas through it tonight to burn off the race gas. It fired right up poor thing.  8)

I had my fingers crossed the Krober tach would work again, and it does but reads aprox 2K rpm too high. I'm pretty sure these can be calibrated and will contact the company in Belgium.

I love this tach, it is a tough s.o.b.

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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1335 on: June 27, 2018, 12:10:39 AM »
Brent sorry to see your bike is beaten up again...imagine that is some footage he does not want his mom to see, but knowing how bikes will flip and flop at high speed with no guidance it probably does not surprise her with it beaten up so bad.  Racing certainly is not an inexpensive endeavour.


Personally I am gonna be mean spirited and hope the guy responsible for so much carnage cannot afford to rebuild his bike.
 All that Ti did not save him any money and could cause you to spend even more money.
Anytime you increase the strength of one part you stress another and find the next weakest link in the chain.  Too bad the guy riding the bike is one of those weak links.  Merely makes it more dangerous for others.
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« Reply #1336 on: June 27, 2018, 04:52:40 AM »
Well TG, I was singing the blues but that won't fix the bike again. I ran some regular pump gas through it tonight to burn off the race gas. It fired right up poor thing.  8)

I had my fingers crossed the Krober tach would work again, and it does but reads aprox 2K rpm too high. I'm pretty sure these can be calibrated and will contact the company in Belgium.

I love this tach, it is a tough s.o.b.

they are the best rev counters by far , i have always used them . one ive had since the 70´s its been on rotax´s and aprilias and i have so far failed to kill it , i have had to search a few gravel traps for it mind .

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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1337 on: June 27, 2018, 06:39:19 PM »
Team Waller got some nice recognition on the VRRA site.  Brent’s bike was used on the main page👍

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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1338 on: June 27, 2018, 07:29:17 PM »

Start watching from about 23:20 and the crash(at 23:30) is about 100 yards ahead of the bike taking the video.

You can see Tyler pull away from the guy making the video early on(9:32, below)

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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1339 on: June 28, 2018, 01:36:22 AM »
hard to see anyone at fault from that ,  will someone please teach yannick  to start racing when the flag drops and to try and be in the right gear occasionally .

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« Reply #1340 on: June 28, 2018, 01:41:57 AM »
with all that armco around the track all where in luck to have it happen in a turn with good run-off..... like really lucky

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« Reply #1341 on: June 28, 2018, 04:18:43 AM »
hard to see anyone at fault from that ,  will someone please teach yannick  to start racing when the flag drops and to try and be in the right gear occasionally .
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« Reply #1342 on: June 28, 2018, 05:04:09 AM »
it made me cringe mike , as for changing down a gear on the exit of a corner ...... no.no.no no !

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« Reply #1343 on: June 28, 2018, 06:58:57 AM »
It was the only video I could find.  Tyler has the front row seat GoPro video footage of course, but I’m thinking he is distracted by his upcoming wedding on Saturday to edit and post the carnage video😉.

FWIW, Brent has another complete set of fairing/fairing mounts, fuel tank, and seat on hand ready to race.  Rearsets and other crash consumables are on hand or easily attainable.  So ideally Brent and Tyler have 4 weeks to put her back together again for the July 27-29th race at Calabogie.  Frame questions, bent fork tubes, wheels OK?  Time will tell.

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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1344 on: June 28, 2018, 06:34:28 PM »
Geezz......They reckon I could murder a box in my time but I don't think I could hold a candle to that bloke. :o
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« Reply #1345 on: June 28, 2018, 08:02:58 PM »
LOL. That's an FZR600 in a 400 frame to boot. Probably the best combination in the class that day. After the red flag he came down the front straight weaving back n forth as if the race might restart and he was keeping his tires warm...... He never claims to be a front runner.


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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1346 on: July 14, 2018, 04:57:52 AM »
Crash damage sucks, in the end though I feel lucky. The frame, swingarm, triple clamps and shocks survived. It's wise to have the odd weak link to save more expensive bits. For example, hollow axles reduce weight but can also be considered consumable. Kevin's (ttr400) front axle I was able to straighten. The front wheel was "tweaked" but just needed to be re-trued, forks were bend but salvageable. Otherwise front damage may have been worse.

The rear wheel is fine but the axle was bent in three spots and was replaced. I sent the Krober back to Belgium and it was re-calibrated. That is one fine tachometer and is tough as nails, it's been torn loose and flown away a few times. Of course little repairs like torn apart wiring takes time.

Every bracket known to man gets destroyed as does all bolted on controls, broken master included. Most of this stuff you carry in spares. The lower fairing survived, rest of the glass fibre bits are just that! Thankfully we have spares.

Many thanks to the friends here that help in a big way. This is amateur racing and sponsorship is a rare thing but believe me it is much appreciated.

This has been a very busy summer aside from racing, so my preparation time is limited. Wearing the number 1 plate for 2018 is a big deal so we'll be ready.

   




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« Reply #1347 on: July 14, 2018, 05:37:53 AM »
Love the color of the exhaust
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« Reply #1348 on: July 14, 2018, 07:55:28 AM »
Looks like I spoke too soon. Both brake discs are bent and there is something odd with the hub, may need to swap it too.

Did I mention crash damage sucks.  >:(

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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1349 on: July 14, 2018, 09:36:14 AM »
Hopefully it's just an optical delusion, but the steering head appears to be tweaked to the right in the pic?
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