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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #400 on: December 15, 2009, 07:09:01 PM »
I just threw up.
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #401 on: December 15, 2009, 09:11:37 PM »
I can't see any reason to lock it.  It's hilarious.
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #402 on: December 15, 2009, 09:22:16 PM »
Quote from: Industrial Cafe on December 15, 2009, 07:09:01 PM
I just threw up.

Was it the take off or the landing ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #403 on: December 15, 2009, 09:47:42 PM »
Quote from: Industrial Cafe on December 15, 2009, 07:09:01 PM
I just threw up.

Motion sickness will do that...

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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #404 on: December 16, 2009, 08:25:05 AM »
Great.  Just when people were starting to like me again, somebody brings this thread back to life.   ::)  :D
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #405 on: December 16, 2009, 10:14:08 AM »
motor cycle on roolband,,,vill it fly ,,if the band stopps..or stand  it still olready ??? ???  max motor osnarbrykke,,vest germany :o 8)...
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #406 on: December 16, 2009, 10:23:00 AM »
I will jump in as another data point but others have said it corrently many times before me.  THE PLANE WILL TAKE OFF!

The forward motion of the plane is dictated by the thrust produced from the propeller.  The wheels have absolutely nothing to do with a planes ability to take off/fly, but rather just to support the plane and allow it to "slide" as the propeller pulls it forward.  If a plane's movement was caused by its wheels being powered, then the plane would not take off.

Think of it like this:
You have an RC car on a treadmill with a string tied to the front ot it.  The treadmill could be moving as fast as it can but if you pull on that string, the car will move toward you, opposite of the direction of the treadmill belt.  The wheels will just spin much faster than the actual forward movement of the car.  That string that you pull is essentially the thrust produced by the propeller.
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #407 on: December 16, 2009, 10:44:50 AM »
No matter what speed the wheels are going...the plane will be PULLED/PUSHED forward by it's propulsion system whatever it may be...the wheels will just be spinning faster when it takes off....

Riddle me this, if the treadmill STOPS all of a sudden, will the plane also stop all of a sudden? Like a bike on a treadmill or a person running on a treadmill?!

EDIT: So if the treadmill does stop all of a sudden will the plan SUDDENLY be airborne as well?!

Also, the Y2k jet bike, they can't dyno that bike, if they put that on a treadmill that matches the speed of the wheels, that bike will STILL move forward, it'll never "take off" but the bike wheels won't care, the bike is being propelled forward!
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #408 on: December 16, 2009, 11:24:11 AM »
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #409 on: December 16, 2009, 11:36:11 AM »
LOL
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #410 on: December 16, 2009, 11:40:51 AM »
Quote from: soichiro on December 16, 2009, 08:25:05 AM
Great.  Just when people were starting to like me again, somebody brings this thread back to life.   ::)  :D

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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #411 on: December 16, 2009, 12:12:02 PM »
There is some good #$%* in this thread. :)
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #412 on: December 16, 2009, 12:22:01 PM »
The plane would definitely get into the Presidential dinner, everybody else has.
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #413 on: December 16, 2009, 12:24:17 PM »
Quote from: Dukiedook on December 16, 2009, 12:22:01 PM
The plane would definitely get into the Presidential dinner, everybody else has.


I think this last one was a breakfast.  So now we just need to get a brunch, lunch and midnight snack and everything's covered. ;D
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #414 on: December 16, 2009, 01:28:10 PM »
If you do go to a Presidential food fest, is it mandatory to throw up before, during, or after the function?

Is hurling the same as lift-off, despite the means of conveyance?
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #415 on: December 16, 2009, 02:59:03 PM »
More importantly, if you are running on a treadmill, and you throw up...if the speed of your vomit is matched by the speed of the treadmill...will it not come out of your mouth?!
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #416 on: December 16, 2009, 03:25:21 PM »
Quote from: TwoTired on December 16, 2009, 01:28:10 PM
If you do go to a Presidential food fest, is it mandatory to throw up before, during, or after the function?

Is hurling the same as lift-off, despite the means of conveyance?

   Hey Llyod...Our first Bush Pres., the senior Bush, set the precedent on this. If feeling ill, immediately turn towards the emperor and hurl chunks on his shoes.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #417 on: December 16, 2009, 04:16:33 PM »
 ;D ;D


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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #418 on: December 16, 2009, 04:21:19 PM »
This debate reminds me of one I had years ago with a coworker.  He was convinced that every pilot since the Wright brothers had it wrong.  He believed planes should take off downwind, since the tailwind would allow the plane to accelerate faster, thus (in his mind)getting off the ground sooner.  In spite of me and others trying to set him straight, I don't think he ever saw where he went wrong in his thinking.  It was a little frustrating until I saw the humor in it.  The interesting thing about this was that he was an air traffic controller.
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #419 on: December 16, 2009, 04:34:42 PM »
Quote from: mick750F on December 16, 2009, 03:25:21 PM
Quote from: TwoTired on December 16, 2009, 01:28:10 PM
If you do go to a Presidential food fest, is it mandatory to throw up before, during, or after the function?

Is hurling the same as lift-off, despite the means of conveyance?

   Hey Llyod...Our first Bush Pres., the senior Bush, set the precedent on this. If feeling ill, immediately turn towards the emperor and hurl chunks on his shoes.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #420 on: December 16, 2009, 04:38:15 PM »
Poop, vomit, politics, blah blah blah blitty blah blitty. Perhaps we need to observe this from another perspective; lets take for example a CB750 on a Dynamometer. If a CB750 were on a dynamometer it would be the same as doing the ton, right?
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #421 on: December 16, 2009, 04:40:30 PM »
Except no tears running into your ears ;D
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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #422 on: December 16, 2009, 04:56:54 PM »
Quote from: Brown Bomber on December 16, 2009, 04:38:15 PM
If a CB750 were on a dynamometer it would be the same as doing the ton, right?
Relative to what?  It's already doing 67,000 MPH +/- 1000MPH.
Your Dyno is in space, right?

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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #423 on: December 16, 2009, 05:03:06 PM »
Quote from: TwoTired on December 16, 2009, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: mick750F on December 16, 2009, 03:25:21 PM
Quote from: TwoTired on December 16, 2009, 01:28:10 PM
If you do go to a Presidential food fest, is it mandatory to throw up before, during, or after the function?

Is hurling the same as lift-off, despite the means of conveyance?

   Hey Llyod...Our first Bush Pres., the senior Bush, set the precedent on this. If feeling ill, immediately turn towards the emperor and hurl chunks on his shoes.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Can this airplane lift off?
« Reply #424 on: December 16, 2009, 05:06:03 PM »
Quote from: seaweb11 on December 16, 2009, 04:40:30 PM
Except no tears running into your ears ;D

Exactly! your "no tears" phrase is dead on. Makers of video game consoles have been capitalizing on this since Bill gates was little more than a pock faced nerd.
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