Topic: Speeder has gun pulled on him.

[Duke McDukiedook]

Hey Ed,

Your lips AND nose are turning brown.

Please stop kissing this disgruntled cop's ass.

[ElCheapo]

Well although the majority of you have no respect for laws and agree with the first guy breaking every traffic law in the book and putting the public in danger didn't deserve to be chased by a marked unit and stopped by the officers it's nice to see we can at least agree that this female officer is a darn moron.  Unlike ya'll i've actually been broadsided by an idiot on a crotch rocket which completely destroyed my truck and killed the guy on the bike.  So i'm going to still have to disagree with all of you that the guy breaking the law was the guy putting innocent lives at risk, not the guy protecting innocent people.  

where the #$%* do you get the idea youre about the only one that respects law enforcement?!? most of if not all of us do, it's some of the bad cops that we disrespect, NOT all police, just the individuals that tend to abuse authority. perhaps as you mature you'll begin to understand that. exactly like me saying most 25 year olds are dumbasses, which is totally untrue.

Your level of immaturity is obvious, some people never grow up and that's o/k it's just a fact of nature.  With little life experiences to learn from you didn't make the choice to be ignorant it just happened.  If you’d like to reference the information it’s referred to as the learning perspective, a known psychological fact. 
I didn't state that all people on this forum disrespect the law, only the people in this thread who constantly refer to our nation’s brave law enforcement officers as gutless pigs and other slanderous remarks they managed to come up with from their limited vocabulary.  It’s very funny considering these are the same people who call 9-1-1 as soon as bad things happen, yet these officers who everyone is bashing still answer everyone’s calls for help indiscriminately 24 hours a day no matter what. 

Reality check mate, i have just reread the whole thread after reading your comments and i think its you who needs to pull back a bit. No one is bashing "all law enforcement officers" and if you blindly believe that all cops are good you live in lala land.
Most if not all comments are based on what the unmarked cop did in his immediate response and to me it looks like he was panicking by pulling his gun before identifying himself, definitely not what he is trained to do . I can think of many situations where if that guy {cop} did the exact same thing he would have been shot and questions asked later.
I don't care who you are, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car and pulled a gun on me with no identification produced what so ever then i would have { or would have wanted to} defended myself and if that meant shooting first then thats what i would have done.......how was the guy on the bike supposed to know he wasn't being jacked, or being dealt with by some vigilante moron ?   I would love to know how much "maturity" you show under the same circumstance. The bloke on the bike was an idiot, i see no one here condoning his actions as far as what he did in traffic, what i see here is a pile of people reacting to what the stupid cop did, reacting without thinking or applying the procedures he was taught at the academy, if that cop chooses to do the same thing as he has done here, in the future,  i can guarantee you someone will eventually beat him to the draw. He was as stupid as the female cop in the video......poor gun security.  Blindly defending all cops is ignorant, the majority do the right thing but there are plenty of corrupt and cowboy cops out there just as there is here in Aus....

Mick

Well obviously as a disabled combat veteran I can pretty much guarantee I would handle the situation a lot more mature than you would, and my resulting action would not have ended in the capital murder of a police officer who was trying to keep other motorists safe.  Then again I wouldn’t have been dumb enough to evade from a marked unit while riding one wheel at 100 mph on a busy highway either.   

Argument from Authority
Adhominem
Appeal to emotion.

ALL FULL OF FAIL.

Want a special gold star sticker for your service? In case you did not notice it was JUST A JOB. If it defines you then you have a much sadder existence than I ever could. Next time we will use you as a battering ram and check with grandpa war vet before acting. Please provide a cell # so we can call you from road side should we need your supposedly infallible wisdom.

BTW - You are not the only combat vet in this forum. THERE ARE SEVERAL

There’s so much love going around in this thread.  I especially love your mentality as you obviously have no respect for the freedoms you have been given as an American.  Guess you’ve never been the victim of a crime, must be nice to have never had anything bad happen to you so you can choose to not be grateful.  I don’t want a little gold star considering I’ve already earned mine, but thanks.  My status as a veteran does not define me but obviously a person who has handled situations under fire for a living could handle this simple situation of unlawfulness in a more mature manner than a poge. 

Typical blow hard long winded Texan

[edbikerii]

Welcome to ignoramusville, ElCheapo.

[motocyconomad]

I wish that when I messed up at work and got myself killed, that I too would be thought of as a hero

[ElCheapo]

Welcome to ignoramusville, ElCheapo.

Its everywhere! LOL

The stupid - IT BURNS

[Rocking-M]

I wish that when I messed up at work and got myself killed, that I too would be thought of as a hero

yep, cops have the oh, 12 most dangerous job in the country. When's the last time you heard
a rancher, farmer, airline pilot, fisherman, yea, I'll say logger (most dangerous profession) referred to as
a hero when they are killed while working? Don't hear them whine a whole lot about their jobs either.

Anyway, waiting to hear from the MD State Patrol.

[Inigo Montoya]

So patriotictex, what makes you think you are so grown up and know so much? Because you were in the military? Because you are "combat disabled"? Hey thanks for the service. Sorry to took a hit. But how exactly does it make you more knowledgeable than the slew of others here who have been in or involved in law enforcement? how does it make you smarter than the other members who also served?
My point is you have not posted any actual reasoning of any sort other than you think your service and injury somehow makes you smarter.
I mean if a person crashes a car, they suddenly do not become experts in auto operations. Even if you were an MP, civil laws are different from military laws.

As I said before, you really need to rewatch the vid. The marked car is NOT right behind the biker, he pulls up AFTER the rider is OFF the bike. Also, if you watch the 720p version of the vid, you see that for the most part, the rider speeds only a little, he pops one wheelie and then for the most part, keeps it about 80. I am unsure where this takes place but in some areas of TX, the limit is 80. But regardless, much of what you say makes it sound like you watched the vid once and that was it. Many of your statements are not accurate.

yet here you are tossing names around and then accusing others of doing it. Seems that your glass house has a few holes in it.

[seaweb11]

Sorry, but I found 12 out of the 25 post on page 4 could not be read when I got there.   What's up with that?

I'm going to call my Mac guy tomorrow and have him look into this. Has anyone else run into this? #$%*! I just bought this stupid thing!!!!!

[754]

If I lived near Seaweb, I would worry about the cops that run over and kill a biker, then run home drop their kid off pound back a few drinks, and then return to the scene... real professional,.. Monty..

 Rocking N, I agree totally, we went to work every day knowing we could easily get killed, just did not make a big deal of it.. Cops know what the risks are, going into the job..

[seaweb11]

If I lived near Seaweb, I would worry about the cops that run over and kill a biker, then run home drop their kid off piund back a few drinks, and then return to the scene... real professional Monty..

 Rocking N, I agree totally, we went to work every day knowing we could easily get killed, just did not make a big deal of it.. Cops know what the risks are, going into the job..

Don't bring me into your thought process.

[City Boy]

Hi gang.This topic sure has suffered from a broken rev limiter.I have no time for squids,they give all motorbikers a bad name.I also fear greatly encountering a bad copper.Having watched many a "Cops" episode though,it seems to me that when you are finally stopped,out come the guns until the runner is under control.It must be normal procedure,no?I had a gun pulled on me in a traffic stop once and it scared the hell out of me;I wasn't running and he was in uniform.I was speeding on I-5 in rural Oregon in the middle of the night.At home here in Ontario when pulled over I would always get out of my car and go back to meet the officer.I always felt this show of respect along with some generous ass kissing might buy me a break!Quite often it worked!Anyway,on this desolate stretch of Oregon road,in the middle of the night,as I opened the door and started to get out,I was met with a gun pointed at me.I just about had a heart attack on the spot.After things calmed down,the officer told me how "things are different down here,we get shot all the time."I completely understood his actions.We had a nice chat for a few minutes,he gave me the invoice,and I was on my way.This topic just brought back some memories for me and really adds nothing to the previous discourse.May I just sign off with this however;we should hope and demand that those entrusted to carry a gun to enforce the law be well trained and level headed,but they are human and if we antagonize them with our mouth or our actions,don't expect a pleasant encounter.        Rock On

[DammitDan]

Awesome.

I never realized how fun it is to just watch the silly mayhem unfold.   

Oh, and do I get a prize for thinking to myself, "I'll bet Ed and patriotictex would be best friends" when I read tex's responses?

[BeSeeingYou]

This one is even wilder than the health care debate.   I think the guy on the bike was a big ass driving like that in traffic.  Could have caused a pile up if he had gone down on one of those wheelies.  The rest is a bit ambiguous.  He looks behind him, does he know it's a cop in the unmarked?  Then he pulls over but is it because traffic was stopped or because he knew it was a cop in the unmarked?  I do think the cop overreacted in pulling the gun too though.

[demon78]

You know if I was speeding because I was pissed by something and was pulled over by a " Runtzy" that's pulling a gun, I would try and run it down,( that would offend my sense of rightness ) in my country people do not run around with guns, now if he identified himself before hand then the games up, oh well. If I was speeding because life was a blast I'd probably sit there and laugh at him for being such a wuss.
Bill the demon

[syth82]

Sorry, but I found 12 out of the 25 post on page 4 could not be read when I got there.   What's up with that?

I'm going to call my Mac guy tomorrow and have him look into this. Has anyone else run into this? #$%*! I just bought this stupid thing!!!!!

Bwahahaahahaaaaa.... I hope I'm not the only one who got this. This thread is the best thing ever.



edit: thanks laminar, my phone can be a pita while posting.

[Laminar]

Sorry, but I found 12 out of the 25 post on page 4 could not be read when I got there.   What's up with that?

I'm going to call my Mac guy tomorrow and have him look into this. Has anyone else run into this? #$%*! I just bought this stupid thing!!!!!

Was this post intentionally blank?

[MickeyX]

 

[CycleRanger]

I almost regret bumping this thread but...

It looks like the judge has thrown out the bogus wiretapping charges for taping the incident.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2010/09/motorcyclist_wins_taping_case.html

"A Harford County Circuit Court judge ruled this afternoon that a motorcyclist who was arrested for videotaping his traffic stop by a Maryland State Trooper was within his rights to record the confrontation.

Judge Emory A Pitt Jr. tossed all the charges filed against Anthony Graber, leaving only speeding and other traffic violations, and most likely sparing him a trial that had been scheduled for Oct. 12. The judge ruled that Maryland's wire tap law allows recording of both voice and sound in areas where privacy cannot be expected. He ruled that a police officer on a traffic stop has no expectation of privacy.

"Those of us who are public officials and are entrusted with the power of the state are ultimately accountable to the public," the judge wrote. "When we exercise that power in public fora, we should not expect our actions to be shielded from public observation."

[754]

 Great news.. good for the rider..

[Gordon]

Great news.. good for the rider..

Great news for every U.S. citizen!  It may only be a local issue and local ruling, but the use of wiretapping laws to prosecute people who take video of police officers in public places has been a very scary thing.  They've been using a law that doesn't come close to applying to the situation to prosecute, fine, imprison, and generally intimidate people to keep them from recording authority figures doing things they shouldn't be doing. 

That kind of manipulation of the law by those who are charged with upholding the letter of the law makes me feel like I'm living in "1984". 

[hotpocket]

That kind of manipulation of the law by those who are charged with upholding the letter of the law makes me feel like I'm living in "1984". 

way off topic, but how does "1984" compare to "Fahrenheit 451" and "a brave new world". the fact that i haven't read "1984" kinda bugs me

[Gordon]

That kind of manipulation of the law by those who are charged with upholding the letter of the law makes me feel like I'm living in "1984". 

way off topic, but how does "1984" compare to "Fahrenheit 451" and "a brave new world". the fact that i haven't read "1984" kinda bugs me

It's my personal opinion, of course, but Orwell wrote in a much more close-to-reality style than Huxley and Bradbury.  While they all wrote about possible outcomes of the way things were currently going in society, Orwell's version has always seemed much more like a prediction/warning based on history rather than fiction based on fear of worst-case scenarios. 

I don't even know you, but I'm surprised to find out you haven't read "1984".  Not only is it an amazing piece of literature, but it's a frighteningly accurate diagram of the way things have been going for the past several decades. 

[hotpocket]

I don't even know you, but I'm surprised to find out you haven't read "1984".  Not only is it an amazing piece of literature, but it's a frighteningly accurate diagram of the way things have been going for the past several decades. 

after reading the other two i guess i thought "1984" would be repetitive.  but now that you've guilt-ed me, i'll make it a priority.

[ferroussphinx]

alright ladies and gentlemen



my name is              not important



now  if you live in indiana you may very well know that an officer that we pay their salary
ran into killed one and critically injured two other motorcyclst  HE was DRUNK IN HIS CRUISER on the way to a call
that was in indy few months ago

two officers one drunk, one drinking in henry county indiana the drunk cop drove in his cruiser with the more sober cop
in his passenger seat on their way to another bar, ran into a house , 6 months ago. this cop lost his job thats all ,the other
suspended with pay,  the cops who showed up on the scene in one report state they picked a black bag full of alchohol. when asked to produce the alcohol stated sir that was a mistake it was his tact belt in the back seat we picked up so the cops can do what they want

one officer in henry county indiana  one and a half years ago arrested for child porn on his computer not not not teen porn
child porn ,he is waiting to be tried


another officer different town same county henry county indiana  5 years ago arrested for child porn on his computer also
indicted on charges and convicted of having a very serious sexual relationship with a minor  15 years old ,
he is in jail  thank god because he deserves it






there is probably more happening all the time we just have not heard about it publicly so there is only five cops   i know personally and they do there job     even though one has ticketed me and one could have arrested me  they do there job these mentionned above do not and there are others who do  not and that rider protected himself by having the cami wantone too 

[Gordon]

after reading the other two i guess i thought "1984" would be repetitive.  but now that you've guilt-ed me, i'll make it a priority.

You won't regret it.  It's one of my favorite books.