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Re: I hate my bike, who wants to buy it?
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2011, 07:40:30 AM »
"jinxed"   "pissed off"   "dumping"  "wondering"  "convinced"


Jeez, you're sure approaching this in an emotional, flaky manner.  It's a piece of machinery fer cryin' out loud!!  Get a mechanic with a few instruments (meter, etc), do some basic troubleshooting, find and fix the problem, complain to Dyna if that's what the issue is and quit whining about "jinxed" and other mystic psychobabble!!

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 Ouch dude, that hurt! I didn't mean to whine, getting up at 4am to drive my school bus leaves me a little flaky bu the time I get home. Yeah I now it's only a machine and I'm not that emotionally tied to it, I'll leave my garage door open tonight and you can come over and "steal" it, I probably won' t shed one tear. So take, Mr. Smarty Pants!


 update: You guys are probably right about the ignition being the problem with my bike, when started the bike this morning and it did not fire up at the touch of the button as it used to do a year ago when the dyna was installed.
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Re: I hate my bike, who wants to buy it?
« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2011, 07:51:43 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2011, 03:38:33 PM »
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Yeah I know it's only a machine and I'm not that emotionally tied to it

Yes you are.. Don't lie!  At some point is stops being just a machine.  I don't know how often I had to just walk away because I felt like pushing my build into a lake while it was on fire screaming TAKE THAT!.  Keep posting and it will all get figured out.

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« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2011, 08:00:54 PM »
I can relate to this. I once had a bike that had an odd running issue, would start and idle fine, but after 30 minutes it would lose power and bog.  Gave it a full tuneup, cleaned carbs, no dice. Took to two different mechanics, they could not find issue either. I thought for sure it was the Dyna, put points back on, issue still there. The last straw was when I was headed out to meet some buddies on a ride, blew a fuse on the way! That was it, started looking for another bike.  Sold the issue bike with full disclosure and lost some money, but no more frustration. Love my 750!!
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Re: I hate my bike, who wants to buy it?
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2011, 09:43:37 PM »
I'm 99.9% sure its an ignition problem and don't be so quick to blame the Dyna. Coupla months ago.....I finally found and repaired an intermittent problem with my bike that has on & off plagued me for years. Before I ever even touched a computer or knew about this forum (2002-2003)............I bought a Dyna 2000 and a set of Accel coils/ wires. I did this when I still lived in Wyoming (moved to Calif. in 2004). I put the coils & wires on back in Wyoming but not the Dyna. I put the Dyna on a few years later out here in Calif. I had to extend the wires from the brain box to the pickups because of where I mounted the brain box. My mistake was not properly extending those wires. Instead of solder/ shrinkwrap...........I used butt connectors and electrical tape. It ran great at first but a year or 2 in......I was having a real intermittent thing with cylinders dropping out but it never really stranded me. Many times I thought it was fuel related.A few months ago.....I got a new (to me) tank from another member. This tank was from a 74' (petcock different and on right side.....mines a 75'). It was just a coincidence but my ignition problem was just really starting to rear it's ugly head when I swapped to this tank. It drove me crazy and did strand me on a couple of occasions although close to home. The last time it let me down....I touched all of my pipes and found 2-3 cold. AHHH-HA!!!..........ignition!!!!! Next day I looked over the whole system for loose connections and decided to unravel the electrical tape I had applied to those butt connectors years earlier. Sure as sh!t.............one outa the however many wires was loose in that stupid butt connector and came right out when I tugged on it!!! It has not missed a beat since and I'll bet I have the cleanest right side mounted petcock outa the whole forum!!!
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« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2011, 04:31:39 AM »
 The real problem is the bike is almost 40 years old. I'd bet all major components, including the entire charging system, wiring harness, seals, tensioners etc etc, are very old. Many different things can go wrong and are sometimes non repeatable unless the conditions are duplicated again i.e. 75+ miles of riding etc.
 Personally I wouldn't take a bike that old on a 500+ mile one way trip (unless there was a support vehicle/trailer). I rode out to Mid Ohio in July which was about 725 miles one way....I rode my Hayabusa. My CB has had all those mentioned components replaced over the years. Would it make a 1,700 miles in 3 days? Probably but I'm not going to roll the dice on that one. Those days are over for that bike.
 I know somebody will say they have recently ridden from the Yukon to Rio on a sandcast with 200,000 miles that still has the original tires. They probably only stopped to fill it up too. I personally met 2 fellas several weekends ago that rode from LA to MA on 750's and they were not all problem free.
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Re: I hate my bike, who wants to buy it?
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2011, 07:39:50 AM »
The real problem is the bike is almost 40 years old. I'd bet all major components, including the entire charging system, wiring harness, seals, tensioners etc etc, are very old. Many different things can go wrong and are sometimes non repeatable unless the conditions are duplicated again i.e. 75+ miles of riding etc.
 Personally I wouldn't take a bike that old on a 500+ mile one way trip (unless there was a support vehicle/trailer). I rode out to Mid Ohio in July which was about 725 miles one way....I rode my Hayabusa. My CB has had all those mentioned components replaced over the years. Would it make a 1,700 miles in 3 days? Probably but I'm not going to roll the dice on that one. Those days are over for that bike.
 I know somebody will say they have recently ridden from the Yukon to Rio on a sandcast with 200,000 miles that still has the original tires. They probably only stopped to fill it up too. I personally met 2 fellas several weekends ago that rode from LA to MA on 750's and they were not all problem free.

To each his own, but if it weren't for many, many people here who were happy to ride their 35-40 year old bikes hundreds and hundreds of miles we wouldn't have had the amazing SOHC4 Relay Ride across America.  Of course there were some mechanical issues with some of the bikes, but it appears the vast majority did the trip trouble free.

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« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2011, 01:23:52 PM »
Yeah I know my bike is old, but she's all I have to ride for the next few years, both my kids willl start college next year. That trip to Barber was only 172 each way,not 500, thankfully. My harness is new, but like another post said, it could be one loose connection and I hope that's all it is. The relay would not have been as cool as it was if not for all he old bikes tbat did ride in it. If there's one next year I'll risk it and take my old girl on it.

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« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2011, 02:17:21 PM »
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Yeah I know it's only a machine and I'm not that emotionally tied to it

Yes you are.. Don't lie!  At some point is stops being just a machine.  I don't know how often I had to just walk away because I felt like pushing my build into a lake while it was on fire screaming TAKE THAT!.  Keep posting and it will all get figured out.

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« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2011, 03:04:17 PM »
Yeah I know my bike is old, but she's all I have to ride for the next few years, both my kids willl start college next year. That trip to Barber was only 172 each way,not 500, thankfully. My harness is new, but like another post said, it could be one loose connection and I hope that's all it is. The relay would not have been as cool as it was if not for all he old bikes tbat did ride in it. If there's one next year I'll risk it and take my old girl on it.

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« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2011, 04:40:11 PM »
 Hell yes I'm keeping the bike, may as well since I've done so much to it so far. I'll try not to whine or complain the next time something goes wrong with it and I know it will, but hey, like Super Chicken says, "i knew the job was dangerous when I took it!"

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« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2011, 05:03:56 PM »
had the exact same problem with a friends 77 BMW with the dyna in it. Pop and die and all the symptoms as you describe.
I went over the bike beside the road for him, pulling plugs, checking leads, gas, etc.... we got her back running and he rode it
within 15 miles of home and it died again. I called his ex to bring the horse trailer and we loaded him in the trailer with his bike and he sat on it all the rest of the way home through the twisties. He was green when we let him out of the trailer. He doesn't trailer well it seems. Anyway, the problem ended up being a simple connection as I recall. Plug lead or something, but I can't for the life of me recall what. But, it was simple and the dyna was not at fault. We all think the worst when this stuff happens but it's best to start real simple. I wouldn't change out the points plate just yet, that really would tell you just where to start other than if it still spits and pops it ain't the dyna. Check all the connections and clean them.
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« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2011, 05:07:04 PM »
My grand total for Barber milage this year was 529 miles.  Even after flogging it on the track twice the only minor glitch I had was a small spot of corrosion on the main fuse.  And on the way back we had a very "spiritted" ride back chasing Fabricator on his goldwing, and it never gave me a single running issue and I'm still on original coils points, condensers, and harness.  All I do is keep up on all the needed maintenance, and it treats me right.  So I have no second thoughts about taking my old CB on a nice LONG ride. ;D
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« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2011, 05:44:27 PM »
 Yeah,you tell 'em Travis! I can vouch for Travis's old girl running like a top, damn you!

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« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2011, 06:46:51 PM »
The stock bikes were known to be boringly reliable.  It's hard to fault the bike in that pure form or restored to such form.  However, hot rodding, abuse, "upgrades", modifications, and shoddy or less than proper repair work can certainly hinder reliability.

For most of these bikes there have been 30 years of opportunity for degradation, re-engineering, neglect, and outright butchering, that can make what Honda crafted quite different from when new, certainly from a reliability perspective.
Every mechanic that has worked on the bike and deviated from prescribed procedures components, can certainly contribute to unreliability.

Sometimes either "saving a buck" or masterminding an "engineering change" (whether from owner or aftermarket guesswork) can have repercussions in tow fees and inconvenience.

Anyway, if you've substituted components not supplied by Honda that fail, can you really blame the Honda design?

Honda had a pretty good recipe for making a reliable bike.  Doesn't take too many ingredient changes to alter the stalwart characteristics.    It's not too far off the mark to laud the design as extra remarkable because it tolerates so many hacks made to it and still provides utility, if not reliability.

It's ironic that so few like the pure stock bike, but it's that stock bike that allows them any success at all.  ;D

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Re: I hate my bike, who wants to buy it?
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2011, 07:04:57 PM »
The folks that won't ride their bikes any distance ( say 500 miles ) seem to include some of the most experienced wrenchers on this Forum and is not always a 'age' thing ! ( rider, that is ! ). My personal belief is complete confidence in my 41yr. old un-restored bike as is possible, with just basic ( but careful ) maintenance it has proven it's stunning reliability over and over... caused many jaws to drop when I explained where I had come from that day or where I was going  :o 8) as many more members can testify....
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Re: I hate my bike, who wants to buy it?
« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2011, 08:10:02 PM »
To each his own, but if it weren't for many, many people here who were happy to ride their 35-40 year old bikes hundreds and hundreds of miles we wouldn't have had the amazing SOHC4 Relay Ride across America.  Of course there were some mechanical issues with some of the bikes, but it appears the vast majority did the trip trouble free.
1+ I did a quick tally, and there are 23 members of the 500 mile club, some of whom came very close to joining the 1000 milers, 16 1000 milers, including a couple of riders that moved on to the 2000 club, which has a total membership of 4.
Edit: crunched some more numbers; the riders in the high mileage clubs alone rode over 42,000 miles on these old bikes, some stock, some far from stock. It boggles the mind to think of how many total miles were ridden by ALL the relay riders. :o :o 8) 8) 8) 8)
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« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2011, 05:35:14 AM »
That's mileage per trip, right?
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« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2011, 06:20:53 PM »
 So after all of my #$%*in' and moaning and hatin' on my bike, it turns out that the problem I was experiencing a few weeks ago with the bike dropping cylinders was not a faulty Dyna. The shop I took into said the timing was off a little, it had been about 6000 miles since the last time it was set and one of the floats in the bowl was sticking. I am so relieved it wasn't something more expensive.  I promise, no more whining the next time something go wrong and it will,  I know it. I'm slowly beginning to understand how these machines work and they're not as scary as I thought. Eventually, I'll be able to do more of my own wrenching.

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« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2011, 08:10:13 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D On what page did someone say check your carbs and timing ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2011, 02:18:52 AM »
BB, I'm glad you like your 750 again ;) With the forums help and all the good people here you'll be able to do what ever you need to keep your CB running top notch. There really pretty simple machines and no one will take care of the bike better than you the owner.
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Re: I hate my bike, who wants to buy it?
« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2011, 05:32:30 AM »
I will freely admit that I am by far not even close to being the most knowledgeable person on this site, hell much less in this thread even but I find it hard to believe that all the problems you experienced could be solely related to your timing being off "a little" & a sticky float. If there is one thing I have learned it's don't find one tiny problem, fix it, and get all excited that everything is as right as rain.

I had a exciting encounter with electronic ignitions in my past and they can be flaky as hell, nothing against all of them by a long shot but they are far from perfect and can be quite finicky. You said cylinder 2 & 3 were cold and I don't think that could be caused by either of the issues you said you found that were off. I have had cold cylinders before and fortunately it was because my stupid ass didn't put the plug wire on all the way. I would suggest some shakedown rides to make sure this issue is resolved before packing up the rain gear and heading out on the open road.

There have been plenty of times I've stood over my bike with a bfh and thought how good it would feel to beat the crap out of it. But like some have said before it's a machine and it will only run as good as the mechanic working on it can make it run. I have learned so much from everyone on this forum, hang in there, ask questions, and above all never give up.   
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« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2011, 06:35:26 AM »
 Freaky, I'll be doing a shake down ride tomorrow, then I'll see if it's really fixed, I'm not straying away from home too far until I'm confident it's  running right, that towing bill still stings!

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« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2011, 08:06:41 AM »
I towed my bike home once by tying the tow rope to my handle bars and the other end to my truck with my wife driving. My advice...pay for the towing! :o
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« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2011, 03:14:24 PM »
yikes, I bet that was scary as hell!