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Who knows vintage stereo equipment?
« on: August 05, 2012, 04:59:22 PM »
 A friend is doing some remodeling and hooked me up with some vintage (circa 1992) stereo equipment. This stuff was high-end, high dollar stuff when new. I'd like to get some info and a current market value, if I could.

 I have two sets of Cerwin Vega speakers. VS series; VS120 and VS150. Both are in above average condition, with some mild chipping on the bottom of one of the VS150 cabinets from the vacuum cleaner.

 One set of Klipsch speakers, marked KG 1.5 in oak cabinets, with stands. Also very good condition with a ring on the top of one where a plant sat.

 One Klipsch sub woofer, powered. (No model No. yet...I'll see if I can find one) Two speakers, front and rear facing. The cover is there, just off for the pics.

 One Onkyo amplifier, model M-504, excellent condition.

 Is this stuff worth anything? It's all big, heavy, solidly constructed and it sounded AWESOME in his living room.










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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012, 05:00:40 PM »
 Oh yeah, and a whole bunch of thick gauge, heavy duty wiring for all this stuff.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 05:03:31 PM »
There are a couple of guys here that know lots about vintage stereo stuff, I'll see if i can find them... ;)
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 05:04:22 PM »
I don't know about worth, but Vegas were about the most efficient speakers on the planet. Even a fairly small amp would be loud as hell.  Nice find.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 05:44:56 PM »
I used to deal this stuff a few years ago. The Onkyo in Mint with owners manual and original packaging would be over $500. Yours need a cleaning and polish. You are looking at around $300 plus but probably minus.

The CV speakers maybe $100.

The Klipsch speakers are a decent model bookshelf speaker. In the $100 range maybe more.

90's stuff is not highly regarded unless it is Carver, Bang, and some others. The 70's and early 80's when they used heavy transformers is more desirable.

The market is fickle, something may be very good but not desirable by the "elite". 

 
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 05:51:10 PM »
The Klipsch are worth something for sure, if the cones are in good shape.
I had a set of those CV's. The rubber around the woofers disintegrated. 
I took them to GoodWill.
Wish I hadn't. I could have used them in the shop.
I bought Klipsch to replace them.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 05:56:31 PM »
 Except for some minor cosmetic issues, as listed, such as some small chips on one cabinet from the vacuum, water ring from the plant, and the sub is missing one rubber boot on one leg. It just has the spike. Other than that, this stuff is in excellent condition good foam, cones, etc. and was in recent use.

 My friend thinks he has the owners manuals and paperwork somewhere....just has to find it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2012, 06:05:09 AM »
I used to deal this stuff a few years ago. The Onkyo in Mint with owners manual and original packaging would be over $500. Yours need a cleaning and polish. You are looking at around $300 plus but probably minus.

The CV speakers maybe $100.

The Klipsch speakers are a decent model bookshelf speaker. In the $100 range maybe more.

90's stuff is not highly regarded unless it is Carver, Bang, and some others. The 70's and early 80's when they used heavy transformers is more desirable.

The market is fickle, something may be very good but not desirable by the "elite". 

 

+1. Bobby knows hifi. The klipsch sub looks like an SW12 model, decent. The Cerwins are your run of the mill big three way, not really too special. The amp and sub are the best in the bunch of what you have.

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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2012, 11:52:00 AM »
If you have the room that can use the equipment and give you a good sound stage for listening then, then while the components may not be perfect to others they may be fine for your needs. Depending on the kind of misic you listen to. Some people listen to music with the bass turned up too high muddying the lows and adding just noise to the mix.  Other want it shrill with the highs cranked. 
Tuning the sound to the room and having an even sound stage can be fun.  The response of the speakers adds another dynamic to the reproduction of the music.

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2012, 05:20:32 PM »
I stumbled across some vintage components a while back:

*Carver TX-8 tuner
*Nakamichi CA5 II controller amp
*Nakamichi PA5 power amplifier (this thing has some heft, 100 watt I think)
*Nakamichi RX202 cassete player (needs new belts, anybody got a good source?)
*Nakamichi OMS-4 CD player (loads but won't recognize disk, probably beyond reasonable repair)
*Pair of Nakamichi Forte' WO speakers (about 36" tall, has 12" equalizer cone on the back of the enclosure)

This setup will still shake the windows!  8) (unless you're trying to play a CD  :( )
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Re: Who knows vintage stereo equipment?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2012, 05:27:56 PM »
I stumbled across some vintage components a while back:
*Nakamichi RX202 cassette player (needs new belts, anybody got a good source?)

http://www.vintage-electronics.cc/nakamichikits.html  $17

The CD player may just need the lens cleaned if the disk still spins.

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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2012, 05:59:57 PM »
http://www.vintage-electronics.cc/nakamichikits.html  $17

The CD player may just need the lens cleaned if the disk still spins.

CR,
    Thanks for the link, belts ordered! The casette deck is pretty cool, it will play both sides of the tape, but it ejects and flips the casette tape on a carousel-like platform to play side two.

    The CD player will spin up, it just won't read a disk, and may even display some sort of disk error. A lot of information I've found online about these indicate alot of units eventually succomb to circuit-level failure. I'll probably try a lens cleaning before I give up on it completely, but I would probably replace (or supplement) it with an mp3 player.
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2012, 06:30:17 PM »
http://www.vintage-electronics.cc/nakamichikits.html  $17

The CD player may just need the lens cleaned if the disk still spins.

CR,
    Thanks for the link, belts ordered! The cassette deck is pretty cool, it will play both sides of the tape, but it ejects and flips the cassette tape on a carousel-like platform to play side two.

Yeah, I remember those. Needlessly complicated but cool. Glad I could help.
You can't buy a good cassette deck anymore. I don't know if they'll ever make a comeback like turntables have.

You're probably right about the CD player but CD's are just bits. :)
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2012, 06:37:30 PM »
http://www.vintage-electronics.cc/nakamichikits.html  $17

The CD player may just need the lens cleaned if the disk still spins.

CR,
    Thanks for the link, belts ordered! The casette deck is pretty cool, it will play both sides of the tape, but it ejects and flips the casette tape on a carousel-like platform to play side two.

    The CD player will spin up, it just won't read a disk, and may even display some sort of disk error. A lot of information I've found online about these indicate alot of units eventually succomb to circuit-level failure. I'll probably try a lens cleaning before I give up on it completely, but I would probably replace (or supplement) it with an mp3 player.
Dirty little secret, any CD player will sound the same on your system. The difference is all features. A CD player will sound a bit better than am MP3 due to compression. Nice gear BTW.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2012, 06:38:20 PM »
Shoot, I thought this thread was going to be about vintage stuff; brands like Fisher, J. B. Lansing, Weathers, Marantz, Akai, Empire...
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2012, 07:52:31 PM »

Tuning the sound to the room and having an even sound stage can be fun.  The response of the speakers adds another dynamic to the reproduction of the music.

1+ My favorite album (or now CD) for evaluating music systems is Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. Lots of dynamic range, from heart-beats to shrill bells.
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 09:13:42 PM »
Shoot, I thought this thread was going to be about vintage stuff; brands like Fisher, J. B. Lansing, Weathers, Marantz, Akai, Empire...

Nah, that's classic gear, op was talking about vintage, although I am not sure 90's is considered vintage.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2012, 12:40:47 PM »
I'm considering hanging onto the Klipsch speakers and sub and the amp and putting something together, but I have a few questions as to how to wire it all up.

 The sub is powered and my friend told me it was "to receiver". He used the amp to drive the VS-150's.
 What if I wanted to get a receiver (or use a laptop or something...would that be heresy?), could I run the two Klipsch monitors with the amp? How would I wire all that up to use the sub as well?

 Back of amp...



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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2012, 01:06:28 PM »
I'm considering hanging onto the Klipsch speakers and sub and the amp and putting something together, but I have a few questions as to how to wire it all up.

 The sub is powered and my friend told me it was "to receiver". He used the amp to drive the VS-150's.
 What if I wanted to get a receiver (or use a laptop or something...would that be heresy?), could I run the two Klipsch monitors with the amp? How would I wire all that up to use the sub as well?

 Back of amp...
 ...and back of sub.

Yeah pretty sure the Klipsch powered sub is meant to drive the smaller speakers as well.
I have no doubt you can pop over to http://www.klipsch.com/ and plug in the model number and download the user manuals.
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2012, 01:31:14 PM »
If the receiver has preamp or low frequency (subwoofer) line outs you could just run the RCA out to the sub or you can just run speaker cord to the sub (hi level) and then there will be output high level to the regular speakers (this will send only the higher than XX hertz signal after it has gone through the crossover- depending on what you set the low frequency crossover  point at- usually set by a control knob on the back usually runs from 30hz-120hz).
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2012, 05:03:03 PM »
 I'm finding out that I need a pre-amp and/or tuner with pre-amp outs to run the amplifier.

 Maybe I can figure out a way to use the sub and monitors with another input?
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2012, 05:39:04 PM »
I did not get a look at the last pic because I was at work. No, you would not need a preamp if you had just a receiver to hook up to the sub and speakers, you would go with the second option I wrote above. Hook in the speaker wire from the receiver to where it says FROM AMP. Then hook up speaker wire to TO SPEAKERS to the speakers and voila, set levels accordingly.
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2012, 05:55:34 PM »
A friend is doing some remodeling and hooked me up with some vintage (circa 1992) stereo equipment. This stuff was high-end, high dollar stuff when new. I'd like to get some info and a current market value, if I could.

 I have two sets of Cerwin Vega speakers. VS series; VS120 and VS150. Both are in above average condition, with some mild chipping on the bottom of one of the VS150 cabinets from the vacuum cleaner.

 One set of Klipsch speakers, marked KG 1.5 in oak cabinets, with stands. Also very good condition with a ring on the top of one where a plant sat.

 One Klipsch sub woofer, powered. (No model No. yet...I'll see if I can find one) Two speakers, front and rear facing. The cover is there, just off for the pics.

 One Onkyo amplifier, model M-504, excellent condition.

 Is this stuff worth anything? It's all big, heavy, solidly constructed and it sounded AWESOME in his living room.


the onkyo 504 amp is good, klipsch speakers are ok, don't bother with cervin vega.  if you can find, most of 80's JBL L-Series and Professional Series speakers are good to keep.  even better investment than our bikes, IMHO

you will also need other components to hook up your system.  pre-amp, am/fm unit if you listen to radio, cd player if you listen to pink floyd - don't get too stoned while working on bikes!!  ;)  get a few pairs of RCA cables with red/white male connectors on both ends, some nice decent gauge speakers cables and you're set.  hooking them up should be fairly simple - think input, then output. 

by the way, once the system is hooked up, don't turn up volume too loud as the onkyo integra m-504 is quite powerful for those speakers you have there. 
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2012, 06:37:31 PM »
I did not get a look at the last pic because I was at work. No, you would not need a preamp if you had just a receiver to hook up to the sub and speakers, you would go with the second option I wrote above. Hook in the speaker wire from the receiver to where it says FROM AMP. Then hook up speaker wire to TO SPEAKERS to the speakers and voila, set levels accordingly.

yes, you can use pre-am function from a receiver.  a stereo system sounds better if you use separate components.  subwoofer is meant to be used in Home Theater system.  if you only listening to music, 2 channels left and right speakers should be plenty.
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2012, 07:38:07 AM »
I'm finding out that I need a pre-amp and/or tuner with pre-amp outs to run the amplifier.

 Maybe I can figure out a way to use the sub and monitors with another input?

Sorry I read that wrong the first time, yes you would need a preamp or a receiver with preamp output to run that Onkyo amplifier. You can run that sub fine for music with smaller main speakers with no problem, the sub is only good for home theater remark is not true at all, it would be fine for low end fill for smaller speakers for music reproduction.
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