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« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2013, 07:45:29 AM »
Weird mysterious package came today. Not sure what it is. States could cause severe improved handling or just cool...?

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« Reply #76 on: July 05, 2013, 11:05:13 AM »
Well after a few days or worrying if I was taken for a nice chunk of money. I got this in the mail today.... I went to pick it up rather then waiting for the Postman deliver it.....

Changing the lower race was the toughest... I used a punch to begin with but that did nothing... Then I got my Dremel and had to cut it off. Came off with out a glitch.... The lower bearing took some time but patience was key...

My buddy Jim came over to help me mock the front wheel on. Wrong axle but I wanted to see how it would look. Assembly wasn't difficult.
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #77 on: July 05, 2013, 11:10:10 AM »
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #78 on: July 05, 2013, 11:41:45 AM »
It's got a great stance. I like it. I hope that's not the tire your gonna run.  Haha

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« Reply #79 on: July 05, 2013, 11:46:31 AM »
Thanks brandEn! Naw I am still not sure if I will attempt the Harley wheel as it is near impossible to find on eBay or have my step dad machine the stock hub for me...
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #80 on: July 05, 2013, 12:42:02 PM »
Me like! Oh wait no it looks like crap, you should just give it to me! Branden is right though that stance looks sick. Have you looked at it off the stand yet?

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« Reply #81 on: July 05, 2013, 01:14:54 PM »
Looks great.  Harley wheel?  Think you can do better....
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« Reply #82 on: July 05, 2013, 01:31:12 PM »
Looks great.  Harley wheel?  Think you can do better....

Insight please!  I need all the help and advice possible!!!!!!! Oh and I meant Harley hub..... Then possibly some nice aluminums.... Not sure if I should go with 18'' and 18'' or a stock 19'' up front
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #83 on: July 05, 2013, 01:43:30 PM »
Pop a tank on to see what the line of the tank is with it off the centerstand and it propped up upright. Then you can tell if front will be high with 19" tire. 
Need hub that will mate to rotors with adapters. Find machinist that can shave ribs on center of hub and give smooth center and polish it up... That and machined like FJ did if you are staying with spiked wheels.

There are more perf tires available in 18 than there is in 19...
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #84 on: July 05, 2013, 03:25:47 PM »
Tews, do you know exactly what Harley hub works?   ...quite possible that one of my shop mates has one sitting around...
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« Reply #85 on: July 05, 2013, 03:46:36 PM »
2000 and up dual disk 1" axle. Narrow glide for sure but I'm sure they can be mixed.
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« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2013, 03:48:17 PM »
2000 and up dual disk 1" axle. Narrow glide for sure but I'm sure they can be mixed.
ok Tews...I will see what the boys got laying around...
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« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2013, 05:00:15 PM »
It is likely the wheel bearings for the modern axle will drop into the CB wheel hub (they did on mine) requiring you to only deal with getting the modern discs adapted to the hubs space-wise and bolt pattern-wise.
The Brembo snowflake rotors share the same pattern to bolt directly to the CB hub. Then you only have to machine spacers to match up to the calipers. If you go with the snowflakes, you may need some small spacers on the radial fork mounts if the snowflake rotors are 10mm larger in diameter from the new disks. This was how mine was mocked up.
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #88 on: July 05, 2013, 06:45:38 PM »
hot dog Nick, looking fantastic. love the modern touches. did you get that tail light thing sorted?

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« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2013, 06:46:02 PM »
It is likely the wheel bearings for the modern axle will drop into the CB wheel hub (they did on mine) requiring you to only deal with getting the modern discs adapted to the hubs space-wise and bolt pattern-wise.
The Brembo snowflake rotors share the same pattern to bolt directly to the CB hub. Then you only have to machine spacers to match up to the calipers. If you go with the snowflakes, you may need some small spacers on the radial fork mounts if the snowflake rotors are 10mm larger in diameter from the new disks. This was how mine was mocked up.

CB any upclose pics?

I have 320 MM rotors...

Can someone explain why radial calipers are better? At least that's what I was told
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2013, 07:11:40 PM »
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Looking good Tews very mean look to that bike.  If you go with 18" front and back let us know what you did for spokes.  I like the look of the same size tire in the front and back.

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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2013, 11:39:41 PM »
It is likely the wheel bearings for the modern axle will drop into the CB wheel hub (they did on mine) requiring you to only deal with getting the modern discs adapted to the hubs space-wise and bolt pattern-wise.
The Brembo snowflake rotors share the same pattern to bolt directly to the CB hub. Then you only have to machine spacers to match up to the calipers. If you go with the snowflakes, you may need some small spacers on the radial fork mounts if the snowflake rotors are 10mm larger in diameter from the new disks. This was how mine was mocked up.

CB any upclose pics?

I have 320 MM rotors...

Can someone explain why radial calipers are better? At least that's what I was told

Radial mounted calipers eliminate torsional flex.  They are also supposed to improve pad wear. 

Here's a picture of my spacers, hub, forks and calipers:

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« Reply #92 on: July 05, 2013, 11:55:29 PM »
Tews, no dice on that Harley hub.   My buddies mostly mess with older sportster stuff...or mag wheels.
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« Reply #93 on: July 06, 2013, 07:14:58 AM »
Thanks Sean for looking. 
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« Reply #94 on: July 06, 2013, 08:30:09 AM »

Here's a picture of my spacers, hub, forks and calipers:



This is the same approach I took with my wheel but my rotors had more offset allowing thinner spacers. Did you have enough spoke clearance without shaving the back of the calipers?
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2013, 09:26:37 AM »

Here's a picture of my spacers, hub, forks and calipers:



This is the same approach I took with my wheel but my rotors had more offset allowing thinner spacers. Did you have enough spoke clearance without shaving the back of the calipers?



It's definitely a concern.  I may have to mill some of the inner portion of the monoblock calipers.  I will have to see when I get to the wheels.  I am also pondering using a mag wheel in place of spoked wheels, but I can't find plug and play 18" front/rear wheels.
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1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #96 on: July 06, 2013, 12:37:31 PM »
Tews, That looks sweet! Did you use the GSXR stem or did you have to press in the 550 stem to the GSXR triples?

How are these spacers between the hubs and rotors attached?


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« Reply #97 on: July 06, 2013, 12:54:57 PM »
Direct bolt on with the stem. All balls provided the proper set up. The hub with rotors mounted is not mine. I have yet to get that far.
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Re: Tews' Build GSX'r Front end mocked up!!!!!!!
« Reply #98 on: July 11, 2013, 06:02:29 AM »
Look'n pretty groovy man!
Have you got a plain for the tank & seat yet?

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« Reply #99 on: July 11, 2013, 09:44:52 AM »
I will post pics of the tank but for now I got another mysterious box in the mail today!?

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