Topic: What do you think? Revise, rewrite, or supplement?

[PeWe]

I'd buy an pamphlet or supplement. On my K4 motor 836 with an mls gasket I tried auto AC o rings which seemed too thick so I used a steel shim and a double edged razor blade to cut down some of the tall seals. I don't know if it's OK because I haven't put many miles on it. Too many other bikes and this one was always on the lift.

Many times, the owners think the leak is coming from those long rubber dowel seals at the front: it is not. It is leaking out the front because of gravity: the oil is actually coming from the oil passages at the back,washing under the bottom side of the head gasket, dribbling to the front. This is part of why it is so hard to explain... 

About leaks creeping forwards. I had a leaking tappet cover, IN 3 where oil flowed  sideways under tank on top of the head. Oil visible on top fin close to cyl 1 ign plug when standing on side stand.

New DSS aftermarket tappet cover that look really good but delivered with too thin o-ring, less than 3mm thick.
I have 31 x 3mm Viton I hope will work.
30 x 3.5 mm must work too, not found Viton, though

[Gurp]

Just some thoughts -- A supplement book/pamphlet would be nice for those of us that already have your book but a revision would be nice for future printings of your book. A pamphlet could be included in future copies while offering it for sale as a stand alone purchase for those who wanted just the pamphlet.
Thanks for caring enough to want to keep the information current and available! I use your book almost every time I work on my 750K8.

This is the right way to go!

[Airborne 82nd]

Mark,
I suggest for supplement & if possible, I'd like to have description of differences that K7 & K8 has against pre K7 models.
Especially details about carbs tuning and other improvements specific to K7

And many thanks for your book, very helpful!

++1000

[DickL]

Mark,
If there is another printing incorporate the changes. Offer a supplement to anyone tha wants one for x dollars.

DICKL

[HondaMan]

I'd buy an pamphlet or supplement. On my K4 motor 836 with an mls gasket I tried auto AC o rings which seemed too thick so I used a steel shim and a double edged razor blade to cut down some of the tall seals. I don't know if it's OK because I haven't put many miles on it. Too many other bikes and this one was always on the lift.

Many times, the owners think the leak is coming from those long rubber dowel seals at the front: it is not. It is leaking out the front because of gravity: the oil is actually coming from the oil passages at the back,washing under the bottom side of the head gasket, dribbling to the front. This is part of why it is so hard to explain... 

About leaks creeping forwards. I had a leaking tappet cover, IN 3 where oil flowed  sideways under tank on top of the head. Oil visible on top fin close to cyl 1 ign plug when standing on side stand.

New DSS aftermarket tappet cover that look really good but delivered with too thin o-ring, less than 3mm thick.
I have 31 x 3mm Viton I hope will work.
30 x 3.5 mm must work too, not found Viton, though

Honda's size for those is 3.2 x 30.8 (a real oddball!), but I've found you can use 3.5x30, 3.3x30.5 and 3.3x31 in a pinch, and they don't leak. The first and last one requires NOT tightening the cover all the way down, or else little shreds of rubber show up around its edges.

[madmtnmotors]

Mark,
If there is another printing incorporate the changes. Offer a supplement to anyone tha wants one for x dollars.

DICKL

+1

Subsequent printings could be dubbed "2nd Edition" to distinguish it from the 1st. 

[HondaMan]

Mark,
If there is another printing incorporate the changes. Offer a supplement to anyone tha wants one for x dollars.

DICKL

+1

Subsequent printings could be dubbed "2nd Edition" to distinguish it from the 1st. 

Yeah....that part will cost me! I have to revise the cover for that, but it's the only way I can think of to externally distinguish it from the first version. I think I will avoid the expensive Euro edition, which ended up costing me more than the number of copies it sold, minus $200-something until today! Most Euro buyers got the hardcover edition, and I think that since 96% of all sales to date are in that cover that I will just skip a redesign of the paperback full-volume version. I got almost 40% complaints about the thick paperback losing pages after the spine was cracked, likely from folding the book open at a page, so I don't want to do that again. Most paperbacks are like that, but I understand why they are popular: they cost (in this case) $12 less to make, per-copy. I finally 'broke even' on the paperback sales in early 2017.

The Supplement will be paperback, though: the hardcover Bible-style backing is only available over 80-some pages long, and it won't be nearly that big. From all I have heard, it had better be in full color, though!

[Marks78]

HondaMan said: "I got almost 40% complaints about the thick paperback losing pages after the spine was cracked, likely from folding the book open at a page, so I don't want to do that again."

     I don't remember who suggested this for the paperback version but it has proven to be perfect for my use of this great book:
     I took my paperback version into "Kinkos" and had them cut the binding off and punch holes in the pages so I could put the book in a three ring binder.  Very convenient and it allows me to make copies of any pages I may want to take with me for whatever reason. Also helps keep the main book from getting as covered in oil from handling during actual use. It was very inexpensive to have done.

[MauiK3]

Hondaman
How will we know when it's ready? I will be ordering.

[greenjeans]

Another vote for the supplement.

I too suffer a tiny oil leak on my 836.  I used a MLS gasket. I even tapped the rivets holding the gasket together before installing.  Ran the motor shortly and actually took the lump out and re-torqed (multi step)   Breaks my heart for this thing to leak - even though it is a very tiny leak.  It bugs the crap out of me.   All surfaces were machined flat.  All new guides, seals etc. etc. etc..  Still a tiny leak.   Always suspected it was from the pucks - I never measured them for thickness and I can't remember what brand they were - but I normally would use Honda for those. 

Perhaps an electronic version (pdf) of the supplement part that we could purchase ?

[PeWe]

greenjeans:
Did you use non hardening sealer under the rubber pucks? One of  few places it is really needed on a CB750.
Thin weeps of leaks from tappet covers can flow over the head. Cold engine: Put finger inside the plug cavities and touch the upper ceiling, check if oil flows from top (rubber pucks) or thru the studs holes.

Franks frame kit helps to correct issues like this.

[Bankerdanny]

I'd love to see an electronic version. I use my tablet in the garage all the time with the PDF repair manuals from the site.

I think Amazon has some pretty robust self-publishing options that would allow for a Kindle edition.

[piefairy]

The problem with anything "digital" is keeping it secure from piracy. No matter how it is produced or encoded, if its digital, it will be shared. If its a small addendum to the prior version of the book, then it wouldn't be to big a deal and it also wouldn't be worth paying to have a print version. But if its getting into the 80 page range that Hondaman was talking about, it would not be worth the effort to release it digital only to have it listed online the same day for nothing.

[PeWe]

I have my book by Hondaman in the living room. Make it dirty with oily fingers? Not a chance.
The book is written for relaxed and fun reading.
I also have a new paper copy of the CB750 shop manual that I have in pdf files too.