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Offline infallible1

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« on: October 22, 2012, 03:17:55 PM »
Have two 750's had them 6-7 years. no titles no bills sale nothing. Ive called every state with the vins no one can find them.  cant do assembled from parts titles without mos on engine etc. two running bikes no way to title or anything.  So much for getting these together for me and pops before he kicks the bucket. Do i have any options? or just part them out? one is a 77 not sure on the other vin is cb750-2011639

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Re: bummed
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 03:19:18 PM »
ive heard of private titling companies, but theyre probably not cheap.

Do you have a previous registration? and know someone in a non title state?
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Re: bummed
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 03:30:03 PM »
I don't know how it is in Florida, but in California I believe you can do a "found vehicle" lien- basically, if it's a vehicle that's not stolen and you can't find the owner, you can put a lien on it. After six months, you offer it for sale and sell it to yourself for a dollar. Boom, titled.
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Re: bummed
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 03:38:07 PM »
ive heard of private titling companies, but theyre probably not cheap.

Do you have a previous registration? and know someone in a non title state?

dont know anyone out of state and titling company wont touch it because im not able to get a letter for the vin saying its not stolen

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 03:38:30 PM »
I don't know how it is in Florida, but in California I believe you can do a "found vehicle" lien- basically, if it's a vehicle that's not stolen and you can't find the owner, you can put a lien on it. After six months, you offer it for sale and sell it to yourself for a dollar. Boom, titled.
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Re: bummed
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 04:28:15 PM »
The key to title at least in Colorado is to have a Bill of Sale notarized that is less than one year old. Because of the age of these bikes in Colorado this would be titles as an In-Lieu Bond title. Perfectly leagal and transferable. And to best best of my knowledge no one can claim the bike to be theirs.

Now if some one knew for sure the bike was not hot and had a really good friend that was willing to write up a bill of sale, one might be able to get a title. But there is risk there for both parties.

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Re: bummed
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 04:36:45 PM »
I think the best you can do is start parting them out. just let your dad (pops) down gently.

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Re: bummed
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 05:09:16 PM »
Have two 750's had them 6-7 years. no titles no bills sale nothing. Ive called every state with the vins no one can find them.  cant do assembled from parts titles without mos on engine etc. two running bikes no way to title or anything.  So much for getting these together for me and pops before he kicks the bucket. Do i have any options? or just part them out? one is a 77 not sure on the other vin is cb750-2011639

This is what you need to do.
Go to your DMV and ask to talk to a supervisor.
Don't act ANGRY or you will get nothing.
Bring all of your papers if you have any.
The frames have numbers and the bikes are probably no longer in the system. California only keeps records on vehicles for 10 years.
IF you can bring the bikes on a trailer it helps.

Just re register them As historic vehicles.
There is always a way to do it.
You just need to get to the right person.
Do not destroy or dismantle the bikes.
You can always do a lein sale.
Just set the price high enough no one would respond.

If a well known movie star owned those bikes do you think he or she could get them titled?
Dam right.
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Re: bummed
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 05:23:37 PM »
how about buying a frame with a title found one for 200 thats legal right?  How can i tell the year from the vin? cb750-2011639

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Re: bummed
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 05:24:40 PM »
Have two 750's had them 6-7 years. no titles no bills sale nothing. Ive called every state with the vins no one can find them.  cant do assembled from parts titles without mos on engine etc. two running bikes no way to title or anything.  So much for getting these together for me and pops before he kicks the bucket. Do i have any options? or just part them out? one is a 77 not sure on the other vin is cb750-2011639

This is what you need to do.
Go to your DMV and ask to talk to a supervisor.
Don't act ANGRY or you will get nothing.
Bring all of your papers if you have any.
The frames have numbers and the bikes are probably no longer in the system. California only keeps records on vehicles for 10 years.
IF you can bring the bikes on a trailer it helps.

Just re register them As historic vehicles.
There is always a way to do it.
You just need to get to the right person.
Do not destroy or dismantle the bikes.
You can always do a lein sale.
Just set the price high enough no one would respond.

If a well known movie star owned those bikes do you think he or she could get them titled?
Dam right.

been all the way up only option was assembled from parts title but i cant because i have no mos on the the major componets. its a really small town here

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Re: bummed
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 05:30:05 PM »
You've probably already tried this but isn't there any way your local police can check the vin and determine if either of the bikes are stolen?
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Re: bummed
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 05:36:16 PM »
They have a disclaimer, but this may be a place to start with the VIN check.
https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck/vincheck
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Re: bummed
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 05:39:06 PM »
how about buying a frame with a title found one for 200 thats legal right?  How can i tell the year from the vin? cb750-2011639

http://www.hondachopper.com/engine/engine_timeline/timeline.html

You're missing a letter in the vin... either a "K" or an "F" after the digits "750". If it's a "K" then it looks like a 72'.
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Re: bummed
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 06:53:30 PM »
You've probably already tried this but isn't there any way your local police can check the vin and determine if either of the bikes are stolen?

vins dont even show

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Re: bummed
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 06:55:05 PM »
how about buying a frame with a title found one for 200 thats legal right?  How can i tell the year from the vin? cb750-2011639

http://www.hondachopper.com/engine/engine_timeline/timeline.html

You're missing a letter in the vin... either a "K" or an "F" after the digits "750". If it's a "K" then it looks like a 72'.

no letter just CB750-2011639

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Re: bummed
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2012, 07:06:44 PM »
Forge a couple of titles? 8)
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2012, 07:09:26 PM »
try a antique title or vintage or classic or what ever your state has for older vehicles. here in Kansas it's a antique and it has to be at least 35 yrs or older.i don't have to have a title but it has to be inspected.and all they do is run the Vin.if every thing is good wa la you have a title.but some states limit the mileage you can put on your vehicle like Missouri you can only have 2,500 miles a year  i believe. Kansas it's unlimited. I'd try that before going through a titling company. they can be very expensive. 
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2012, 07:17:34 PM »
I have a couple vehicles that i got around the no title issue.   Mine aren't hot but rather look for a long lost owner who probably dont have the title anyway I improvised with simalar vehicles and vin tags.
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2012, 07:30:54 PM »
well i reckon i know what my plan is. Thanks to a member here i am now taken care of on one bike, will part the other out. And gotta see if i can get Mreich for a block for the spare motor :) 76mm with a 2mm stroked cb900 crank. And put the turbo off my old gsxr on it :) should be a beast of a cafe

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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2012, 08:31:15 PM »
If it helps:
"If a certificate of title has not previously been issued for a motor vehicle in this state, the application shall be accompanied by a proper bill of sale or sworn statement of ownership, or by a certificate of title, bill of sale, or other evidence of ownership required by the law of the state or county from which the motor vehicle was brought into this state. The application shall also be accompanied by a sworn affidavit from the seller and purchaser verifying that the VIN shown on the affidavit is identical to the VIN shown on the motor vehicle" F.S.A.  §319.23(3)
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Re: bummed
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2012, 10:53:08 PM »
If it helps:
"If a certificate of title has not previously been issued for a motor vehicle in this state, the application shall be accompanied by a proper bill of sale or sworn statement of ownership, or by a certificate of title, bill of sale, or other evidence of ownership required by the law of the state or county from which the motor vehicle was brought into this state. The application shall also be accompanied by a sworn affidavit from the seller and purchaser verifying that the VIN shown on the affidavit is identical to the VIN shown on the motor vehicle" F.S.A.  §319.23(3)

If thats for florida that could work

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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2012, 12:16:33 AM »
man were lucky here,,we dont get any of that title drama,what a pain in the everything!a hand written receipt and not on the stolen list and its yours!so long as its not encumbered by finance it all good,from any state.

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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2012, 02:38:55 AM »
If thats for florida that could work
Yes sir that's quoted straight out of the code, called the Florida Statutes Annoted (FSA)
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Re: bummed
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2012, 03:51:24 AM »
how about buying a frame with a title found one for 200 thats legal right?  How can i tell the year from the vin? cb750-2011639

http://www.hondachopper.com/engine/engine_timeline/timeline.html

You're missing a letter in the vin... either a "K" or an "F" after the digits "750". If it's a "K" then it looks like a 72'.

no letter just CB750-2011639


Are you getting the number from the engine, or from the left side of the steering neck on the frame? (They are different) The letter designation may have been something that was done on the later models though and maybe not on the earlier models?
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Re: bummed
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2012, 11:00:24 AM »
If thats for florida that could work
Yes sir that's quoted straight out of the code, called the Florida Statutes Annoted (FSA)
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wont touch it without a title, ill drive this f,in bike through there front door. Cant prove i own it because no title, but its not stolen because you cant find the vin.

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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2012, 11:30:07 AM »
you might try this...
read the first post, and then the 3rd from the last post.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655441
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Re: bummed
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2012, 01:11:23 PM »
you might try this...
read the first post, and then the 3rd from the last post.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655441

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« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2012, 01:40:19 PM »
If dealing with the DMV is not your thing, http://www.cclns.com/ works good for about ~$400.  Its pricey but its sometimes easier than dealing with bureaucrats of the state.  Only took about a month or two before I got it back.
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