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« on: October 22, 2015, 08:39:33 AM »
And I thought I had seen it all. ;D

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 08:46:09 AM »
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Re: Have any of you guys actually witnessed this???
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2015, 09:25:36 AM »
Hahaha

Dang Billy, you remember this?

In Rockingham Hotrod Chrissy showed us some of her personal footage of one of these races..dirt straight to the face! also said Billy Vose snapped his leg in half racing someone elses bike with pegs too high or something!! These guys are insane..
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2015, 09:44:54 AM »
What, no burnouts? Where's the sled?
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Re: Have any of you guys actually witnessed this???
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 09:58:35 AM »
have always thought drag racing required no riding talent whatsoever , this looks alot more interesting though !

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 10:10:04 AM »
At first I thought it was stupid. It is interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2015, 10:15:53 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2015, 10:26:16 AM »
I seen it at the local fair, it was called tractor pull.


Wait, only the cloud of ;D dirt gives some resemeblance.

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2015, 11:20:25 AM »
We have a regular event known as GRASS DRAGS for bikes, quads, and snowmobiles about 15 miles from my house. Its interesting......and sometimes very funny.
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Re: Have any of you guys actually witnessed this???
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2015, 02:13:24 PM »
I first thought hill climb, then I thought, this would be fun to watch.   Where are these events held?  Gotta you see this.

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 04:05:23 PM »
Dirt drags are cool,we have a track about an hour from me
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2015, 04:37:00 PM »
 We had one on Vancouver Island..always wanted to run my 836 there..
 Then one day a top Fuel Harley got out of shape and took out the track photographer... He ended up in about 3 pieces... That was the end of the dirt drags at that track. .
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2015, 05:22:11 PM »
Nucking futs!  That is just a little bit squirrelly! 
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2015, 02:31:19 PM »
have always thought drag racing required no riding talent whatsoever , this looks alot more interesting though !
There are pro riders and drivers out there precisely because they have talent .
Not everyone is interested in going round and round you know .

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2015, 03:17:21 PM »
what I thought about most was the way these bike spooled up so fast,no 10 grand launches ,bill
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2015, 03:53:39 AM »
have always thought drag racing required no riding talent whatsoever , this looks alot more interesting though !
There are pro riders and drivers out there precisely because they have talent .
Not everyone is interested in going round and round you know .

no , once the clutch is out the rider is just siting with the throttle open and only has to change a few gears . my grandmother could do that
unless one ridder is completely useless the winner of a drag race is the person with the best bike .

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2015, 04:04:43 AM »
And I thought I had seen it all. ;D


Reminds me of these guys - watch out for Mr 5mins 20secs

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2015, 05:25:19 AM »
  Wow Simon, I've been drag racing for 30 years and had no idea how easy it was. :o Thanks Bro! I have blamed the vehicle a few times though.

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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2015, 05:27:24 AM »
have always thought drag racing required no riding talent whatsoever , this looks alot more interesting though !
There are pro riders and drivers out there precisely because they have talent .
Not everyone is interested in going round and round you know .

no , once the clutch is out the rider is just siting with the throttle open and only has to change a few gears . my grandmother could do that
unless one ridder is completely useless the winner of a drag race is the person with the best bike .
Not so fast young man. I'd like to see you  or any racers who think like you. ....try it! Having roadraced and motocross and drag racing they are all challenging. And yes roadracing at the top, ask Ian King to let you ride his Top Fueler. C'mon man  ;D, Bill
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2015, 05:52:01 AM »
   Too bad you're so far away Simon, that 2K bonus at Valdosta would be easy pickins for you, huh? Maybe send your grandmother! ;D

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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2015, 08:22:30 AM »
perhaps one of you can explain the skill and difficultly in letting a clutch out ? 
i have done a few drag races , many years ago and did enjoy it  but i stand by my original comment , all the skill in drag racing is performed in the workshop
and underdog , the best bike will win that 2 grand and good luck to the winner . if you like i will send my gran over , you dont have a spade i can borrow do you ?

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2015, 08:31:45 AM »
Well I'm busy in the workshop getting grandma's bike ready. So I'll be back when I take a break to reply. Question, did you bracket race or run heads up?  ;D,Read about Reaction time and dead on your dial in. Lol. Bill
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2015, 08:36:12 AM »
I think it is naive to think that the entire race is won/lost in the workshop.  Simon is also neglecting the extreme difference in power, and getting that power to the ground.  You can have the most powerful motor and still muck it up if you cannot get the power effectively to the ground.  Add dirt and the bike really gets unstable.  Reaction time also plays very significant role, too.

I used to think that NASCAR racing was for complete idiots, too, until I tried racing a NASCAR light car on an oval.  It actually does take skill and punishment on one's body.

Overall, I do think that motorcycle road racing is the most demanding of the disciplines, but each of the other forms of racing demand certain skills. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2015, 09:23:40 AM »
I wish I had a tenner for every time that someone has said "Drag Racing , all you do is give it a handfull and drop the clutch " . Or someone has said "Land Speed Racing . what's so hard about doing 200 mph on a bike ? " .
In my experience these comments are usually made by people who have done neither .
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2015, 09:26:10 AM »
Simon,

Are you trying to upset people?  :D  ;)  When you are referring to the 2000 bonus, this is a bracket race.  The name of the game here is reaction time and getting down the track as consistently as possible to the time you post as your target, without going over it (faster).  Wins in this class are at times measured in hunderths or thousandths of a second.

From my understanding,  your argument becomes progressively more viable the slower the bike is and the more functions the bike has to either help you accomplish consistency (like air shift) or directly does for you(like auto trans)

For example, someone riding a foot shift 9 second methanol burning stroker big bore cb750 drag bike will have a MUCH harder time trying to be consistent compared to a stock power level Hondamatic.

That said, the level of consistency and accuracy that exists in this class is very impressive.  That's not to say that I am particularity "into" this kind of thing, but to compete at the level required to win a Man Cup event would require more than just being good at letting out the clutch.  Your reaction time at the tree is not an easy thing to master I'd think, and it's a big part of drag racing.

Road racing is VERY challenging and certainly has more dimensions to it so to speak.  So from the perspective of a veteran road racer, I can see how it would appear easier than it is. 

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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2015, 12:06:12 PM »
Well I'm busy in the workshop getting grandma's bike ready. So I'll be back when I take a break to reply. Question, did you bracket race or run heads up?  ;D,Read about Reaction time and dead on your dial in. Lol. Bill
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it was just a straight race bill . the bike was an rg500 engine in a chassis as long as a wet weekend with the nitrous , it was quite fast . it was [ and still is ] owned by a sponsor of mine who loved the sport
i was told to ride it because i expressed the same opinions to him as i have to you . i posted almost identical times to him which he found strange for some reason [ 25 years experience bla bla bla ] but to me it was the same bike so it was
always going to be the same time
oddly when i suggested he enter the tt and try a few 160mph corners with someone else's elbow jammed in his ear he politely declined

george , its been a little dull round here lately !

 bracket racing , winning for being the most consistent ?

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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2015, 12:53:29 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2015, 01:45:44 PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2015, 02:11:29 PM »


george , its been a little dull round here lately !



I was wondering if that was part of the reason for your tone and timing ... ;)   

Bracket racing doesn't appeal to me either on a personal level.  It serveks it's purpose in allowing bikes of far different ages and performance levels to compete head to head on a reasonably even basis.  That helps people bring the vintage bikes out there to be seen and appreciated.

Vintage road racing has enjoyed far more popularity, allowing heads up classes in different age groups, displacements, levels of modification, etc.  That is fantastic.

I wish there were more events where vintage drag bikes could be amongst their "own kind" and not being something of a side show for mainstream modern stuff events.  The modern stuff just doesn't interest me.

Going to Mosport was a blast with all the vintage race bikes there.  All the distinct sights and sounds of vintage Hondas, Yamahas, Nortons, Triumphs, etc, etc.  Loved it 8)

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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2015, 04:44:39 PM »
And in a couple years the 750 Nationals!!   ;D, Bill
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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2015, 05:14:34 PM »
Simon you got the same et...that us the machine..
Now compare 60ft times and reaction times.... That is the man..not the machine .
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2015, 05:48:21 PM »
Reminds me of the old argument about the use of delay boxes in drag racing. Hahaha